I got a BA at Purdue and started looking for an Administrative Assitant job since March before graduating in May. Nothing has turned up. Is it the economy? Otherwise my degree is worthless.
Among other reasons I assume.
PROVE ME WRONG
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Anonymous2008-08-20 19:03
I am a psychology major and plan on looking for a job straight out of college. Grad School may come later. Needless to say, I am frightened of our job market.
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Anonymous2008-08-20 20:55
The only way to have a guaranteed job out of college is to get a degree in math or science.
my brother has two degrees (philosophy and journalism), one from st andrews which is a pretty respectful university, and he's been working minimum wage in a bank for like four years.
College degrees don't actually create jobs. That's the fundamental truth that you tards refuse to admit.
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Anonymous2008-08-22 6:41
>>10
Education creates jobs indirectly by providing people with the information they need to find new avenues for growth in industry and services. If you didn't mean to say "some college degrees" you're an idiot.
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Anonymous2008-08-22 6:43
>>10
Also you're the archetypal smug cynic. You pretty much put "That's the fundamental truth that you tards refuse to admit" at the end of every post and that forms the basis for your entire argument.
>>11-12
You must have college degrees, since you are so delusional. College degrees don't actually create jobs. The people coming out of college now are finding out that truth, slowly but surely (the slowly part, unfortunately, is happening since college is also an indoctrination system). Jobs are created through the skilled use of capital in tolerate markets. No college degree is capital, certainly isn't much of a skillset since it's far too narrow to create a business, and isn't a market.
What you college fucks are proposing is that an engine can run without several missing elements like pistons, air and lubricant. You only IMAGINE that you're the fuel, and that fuel can do something all on its own. But it can't. Sometimes it can explode and produce heat in a certain place and time, but largely it just sits there and changes nothing. No degree ever created a job. NOT ONE. Capital is required. Tolerant markets are required. Luck may also be required. But a degree?
No ... and that's the silliest part of it all. People don't need to get a degree to have knowledge. So not only have college degrees created ZERO jobs, but they aren't even necessary to the job-creation process in the first place.
The two of you now need to see a doctor, since I just PWND you so massively that your wounds require treatment.
P.S. In other words, I have ahold of the fundamental truth of the matter, and you are just tards who refuse to admit it. Har!
You're confusing employers with employees, as your arguments suggest capital should be abolished while all workers retain an equal share regulated by the state.
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Anonymous2008-08-23 10:57
>>13
How does any of that relate to the assertion I made in >>11?
Let's make this simple. There are 2 businesses, one in anonland and another in redcreamland. Each business has the capital it needs to expand and the new facilities will need 10 chemical engineers and 50 unskilled labourers.
In Redcream land colleges are banned because "College degrees don't actually create jobs". As a result there will be no new chemical engineers to run the new facilities and the business there decides not to make the investment.
In anonland the colleges are churning out graduates every year, not all of them major in chemistry, some of them are pussy liberals who major in sociology, but those that do find themselves getting paid a lot and college entrees see this and decide to major in chemistry instead of women's studies, liberal arts or sociology. As a result the business believes the new facility will get the chemical engineers it needs, builds it and this opens up jobs for 50 unskilled labourers.
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Anonymous2008-08-23 12:04
Tip: Complete all but one class, then work as an intern to get street cred. Graduating will only lower your chances of finding a job.
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In RedCreamLand, colleges would NOT be banned. That is just part of your delusion. But they would not be counted upon as creators of jobs. A degree is not a job. Capital + Knowledge + Environment + Willpower = Jobs.
And the "knowledge" factor doesn't have to involve a degree. People gain work experience can can read books on their own.
Why are you morons so fucking delusional? Apparently it's because you have degrees, which are largely indoctrination certifications. Literally you're unable to discern the truth of things, since by doing so, you go against the self-interest that's been ingrained from your so-called education.
The point is: People were operating chemical plants before there were chemical degrees. Degrees don't create socio-economic operations.
I am greatly enjoying talking with people on a near daily basis about how they are in the same boat as I am (despite their having all manner of degrees) -- that being a lack of work opportunity. According to you, this just can't happen since all those people with degrees would be creating jobs. Nice try in laboring against fucking REALITY, chum. It looks like you forgot all those other factors to the job-creation equation.
>>17 >>18 >>19
So you admit that a college education is a factor and thus with other necessary factors, such as the presence of air to breath, it creates jobs. I already said this in post >>11. Education indirectly creates jobs.
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Anonymous2008-08-24 15:31
>>20
Air creates jobs. You heard it here first, folks.
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Anonymous2008-08-24 23:02
I have a BS in Chemistry, and am perpetually employed. I am on my 4th job since graduating in 2003, and each has been superior to the last. The job I am at now, I can see myself retiring from.
tl;dr - if you get a bullshit degree (journalism, psychology, english), you will get a bullshit job.
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Anonymous2008-08-25 15:45
ITS THE MEXICANS
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Anonymous2008-09-03 17:08
lol at all these faggot kids who thought life would be easy. my left nut is more qualified than your whiny little asses
college degrees don't get you a job, they just make you qualified for one. But whos to say that job will be available...or something.
The best example I can think of is having a college degree in...I don't know, whatever, and living in ethiopia. It doesn't actually get you a job or generate one, just makes you qualified for it.
A college degree shows that you can put up with stupid bullshit for four years. A college degree WITH INTERNSHIPS shows that you can put up with bullshit and have much needed job experience. If you're smart about it, you can even get low- to mid-level industry contacts to help secure you a job.
Also, get a real degree. Are there any legitimate "Arts" degrees? I think degrees in the Arts are only good if you'd like to become a professor in that field. They're like money-making schemes for Universities. All they do is bring in the tuition of trust-fund faggots too stupid to study a real field.
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Anonymous2008-09-04 17:18
A college degree shows your family had money to send you to a place where you could do drugs, get A+s for the professors liking you, and pretend to learn things.
Sooner or later, even someone as intrinsically and droolingly dumb as a college grad will understand that paying $40K for degree to get a $12/hr job is a stupid move.
I have an aunt thats going through this problem right now. She has a masters in some sort of business flavor or the like, and hasnt been able to find a job for three months. The way I see it, if you're going to go to college, then go for a job that you'll enjoy, and dont worry about being poor, or go get a job that will make you money, but make sure its recession proof.
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Anonymous2008-09-15 23:13
what the shit is with all the faggots who think college education is only for liberal arts and that you don't need to go to college to become an architect, engineer, lawyer, doctor or scientist, all of which are fucking integral to the functioning of society. In b4 claims of self-education
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Anonymous2008-09-16 0:38
Business degrees are for pedigrees. Go fit yourself in a cubicle and work your way up, because there are people in India who received your level of education three years younger than you who are willing to work for $10,000/yr less. Unless you're a smug, white, rich boy who's daddy got him that chair at BoA, you're not going nowhere.
The business world is flat, much like your computer screen.
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Anonymous2008-09-16 8:48
>>38 what the shit is with all the faggots who think college education is only for liberal arts and that you don't need to go to college to become an architect, engineer, lawyer, doctor or scientist, all of which are fucking integral to the functioning of society. In b4 claims of self-education
By the grammar and spelling I can tell that this is the most educated opinion in the thread.
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Anonymous2008-09-18 9:31
An average Mexican is more productive at being an architect, doctor, or lawyer than someone who "studied" it for years in college.
>>41
Those running the maquiladoras found out that Mexicans were largely responsive to "need" instead of "schedule". That means that when payday rolled around, their Mexican workers took the cash and disappeared until the money ran out ... THEN the workers would return for another round of work+pay. The managers of the factories had to run all kinds of wacky shifts and personnel rolls in order to handle this un-American sort of work ethic.
BTW, YOU=PWNT.
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Anonymous2008-09-19 9:23
>>41
Ok, when you suffer cardiac arrest whilst trying to haul your fat ass onto a 15 year old crack whore, pay an illegal immigrant to perform your triple bypass instead of those greedy consultants and surgeons at the hospital.
>>45 You take this shit with all due seriousness.
FIXT, FOOL.
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Anonymous2008-09-20 15:28
The reason México is not a powerhouse economical and military power is not because their workforce is lazy or incompetant. But because they have little access to resources, little access to the means of production that Europe and America have a monopoly on.
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Anonymous2008-09-20 15:29
What is wrong with working on need instead of schedule? That shows Mexicans are not greedy and don't seek more than they need. >>43
>>48
There is a certain and cultural merit to working on need. However, the USians who organized those factories didn't expect that sort of labor force. USians who adopt that sort of work ethic find it very difficult to live in our society of periodic payments. In Mexico, it's a lot easier to get by with either aperiodic income or no income.
HOWEVER, that can't last in Mexico, since the USian subservience to Jewbanks and other Jewcorps eventually requires all participants to enter into debts and taxes and fees and all the other unfortunate apparati of such a monied society. So working on need will eventually give way to "always working" since the needs will grow much faster than incomes. That is the Jewish trap that the Zionists have set for the entire world.
Education major here, have applied for jobs in half the state and haven't gotten so much as a single phone call. No such thing as being able to teach without a degree, or having internships here. Student teaching is the closest to an internship possible, and even the school I did mine at didn't hire me.
So I'm still working at the same restaurant I have been since high school, for 7.25/hr.
>>55
Good luck paying back your stupid student loans, asscreep. What are they now, $35K and climbing (since the interest is in deferment)? All you DORKS are coming out of college loaded up with a house-sized debt that can ONLY put the brakes on your citizenship and consumership.
I'm SO glad that I've stocked up on the basic chemicals necessary to make IEDs. Gawd, this coming civil war is going to be GREAT!
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I like you. You seem to be the only science degree person in here. Im working on my science degree myself but mine is biology and soon will probably have a masters in either neuro or evolutionary. But besides that like this guy says>>17
You need EXPERIENCE. Experience means fucking everything in this world. I mean a good example is this, I am a 21 year old Pre-vet student who has options. Yes Options. Options because Ive gone through and either worked for or volunteered with many vets in the area now I either know someone or someone knows me. so even if I dont get into vet school I have options. Or I can go back into the lab and work at my university while building my masters. you cant just go to school for four years and DO NOTHING. And not working and just taking classes at 18 is DOING NOTHING. Seriously I dont care who the fuck you are but in this world people likes to see that you can scramble. Most jobs are masochists in this sense they would rather see you take on 18 credits, have a full time job, and be able to attend extra curricular activites and now have good credit also in order to prove that you are the best of the best. And THAT is before the interview that is just your fucking resume. Once they see that then you have to prove yourself by a variety of events in your life rather than you know just fucking around partying with your friends on those many weekends where you could have been building your experience.