ITT WHY PUBLIC SCHOOLS SUCK

STUPID IN AMERICA
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw

Lets face it, public schools are made of total fail, and we spend more on education than the entire budgets of some countries.  Lets stop the massive fail and get some real solutions like Educational Freedom/School Choice.

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>>80
And market forces like competition will gradually improve the quality of the education that children receive, unlike in this shitty government school monopoly we have right now that the leftists/democrats/teacher's unions have foisted on the public now.

>>82
You're wasting your time explaining that.  The schoolfags here will never admit their unionized and government-coddled educational elite are at fault for the singular mega FAIL that is public education today.  Since they will never hear what you're saying, it's long since time to stop talking and start acting.  Take your own kids out of their Liberal-destroyed school system and find alternatives for educating them.  Leave the Liberals to scream even more shrilly in the great emptiness of their collapsing fund models.

The time for discussing this matter is over.  Competition is here regardless of what the schoolfags think.

>>83
The liberals seem to be wanting to make that harder and harder.  Look at that court decision out of California - no homeschooling without a license or whatever.  Fucking liberal fascists.

LIBRAL FASCISTS, I WANT KOMPETISHUON IN MAH SKOOLZ EVEN THOUGH THE BEST PROVEN SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN THE WORLD DON'T WORK LIKE THAT AND I CAN'T GET IT THROUGH MY THICK SKULL

lol retarded americans are still at it

>>86
NO WE'RE NOT!! WE ARE NOT STILL AT IT!! WE ARE AT SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW!!

>>84
That's why we derisively call it the People's Socialist Republic of California.

>>85
The public schools in the nation refuse to be fixed and are only insisting on being very well paid for it.  That's the real issue that you're ignoring.  It's not about following other models from across the world.  It's about fixing ours, no matter what.  I bet that all those other models DON'T tolerate the extreme levels of FAIL which fill American schools.  American public schools test out poorly in comparison to the rest of the civilized world.

Since they have a monopoly and that monopoly refuses to let itself be fixed, there's no model that can be applied except the one for COMPETITION.  Deal with it, Mr. Apologist.

>>88
More denial, more crying. Keep up the good work, cocksucker. Do it the AMERIKAHN WAY and do the polar opposite of the proven working system. This is the same bullshit retarded libertarian kids try to justify with your aids-ridden healthcare system. You may keep crying, but it doesn't change the fact that your mixed system which heavily contains KOMPETISHON is utterly raped by the functioning socialized systems of Western Europe, yet instead of complete socialization, somehow your minds which were shaped by that pathetic excuse for schooling suggest the opposite.

Also, apologist? You have a knack for producing tragic irony...

>>89
You're in denial, yourself.  If a European type of system can succeed IN AMERICA, then competition will provide a version of it that works.

BUT ... keeping the same, overpaid, unionized, political-crony, public-school system is no longer an option.  People are making their choices, and when they can afford to, they flee such a system with great speed.  The problem isn't that your beloved European system isn't being adopted.  The problem is that the public schools in America just SUCK.

>>90
Oh, of course AMERIKA is in another planet, inhabited by Homo Retardicus like yourself, therefore any proven system will not work, and the opposite of the functioning system should be tried defying all logic and sense, because that is the AMERIKAHN WAY, right? I said that in the preceding post, why did you feel the need to repeat your incessant whining?

>>88
Derisive? I thought that was a compliment!

What's wrong with competition? What is wrong with accountability?

Privatise everything.

>>93
>>94
More products of the retard-oriented American public schooling system.

>>95
My uncle on my mother's side, my dad and his brother, my grandfather and 2 of my cousins have networths in the top 1%. Can you blame me for following in their foot steps?

>>96
Please learn English and try again. You should make your retardation less obvious.

>>37
learn to english

>>97
On the contrary, you will be needing to learn English more complex than that provided by our public schools.

I go to UC Berkeley.
This clip made me laugh, looks like Private Schools are lobbying again,have fun with your Catholic educations.

>>99
Enjoy your irony and retardation, pathetic faggot.

>>101
Your argument carries no weight without proof. I guess they skip basic reasoning skills in public school aswell.

>>102
OH MY GOD, LOOK AT IT EVEN MORE IRONIC STATEMENTS, BRACE FOR IMPACT!

>>103
Provide your facts whenever you're ready.

>>104
You started with "HURRR DURR PROOV ME RONG" bullshit with no factual basis, so actually it was your turn to back your delusions up (which, of course, is not possible) from the beginning, butthurt retard.

>>96
Yet you spend your time on 4chan /newpol/, of course...

Did I say "fucking americans" before in this thread?

>>105
Actually it began with my statement that we should privatise the school system. This cannot be proven wrong since it is correct, I guess that's why you're crying.

>>108
This is how retarded libertarians think. WE SHUD PRIVATIZE DA SKOOL SISTEM AND YOU KANT PROOV ME RONG BEKUZ IT IZ KORREKT, CONTRADICTING EVIDENCE IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE MY BRAIN DOES NOT DEAL WITH INFORMATION, ONLY WHAT MY MASTERS TELL ME

I'm glad I live in finland with the proven best education system, which doesn't churn out epically retarded organisms like this retard.

>>109
If it is so easy to disprove you should be able to disprove it.

>>110
Are you retarded or can't you read? Finland. Finland. Fucking Finland, you retarded faggot.

The problem with the "Finland Fellator" posting here is that Finland's model can't be exported to the USA.  The problem is that in the USA, teachers and administrators in the public school system just won't educate children.  The teachers and administrators just like to collect their paychecks and benefits off the sweat rolling off the ballsacks of the taxpayers.  They aren't held to any rational standard of evaluation, since children are rolling off their production line in various states of being unable to read, calculate and overall THINK in any critical fashion.

Since the public school system in the USA is definably broken while still operating on a daily basis, the only sensible and sane answer is to force it to compete.  If we open the school systems to competitive bidding, then the paycheck-collectors currently staffing the public schools will at least have to accept lower compensation.  After all, if the children won't be educated by these worthless professionals, then we may as well just have this mis-education happen for a lower cost.

Now, let's hear more of:

DERP DERP DERP FINLAND DERP DERP DERP MODEL DERP DERP DERP

No one wants to be held accountable for being a shitty teacher/parent. Back in the day if you were a shitty parent your kids will either choose not to support you when you are old or be too poor to do so and if you were a shitty teacher you would only be able to find work as an agricultural labourer, jacking off pigs and harvesting potatoes 14 hours a day. We need to restore these traditional values.

>>112
So, you retards fail because they only want money, yet privatization is going to fix it by magically reverting their attention back to education, even though now they're explicitly fucking for money.

I know you Americans are generally retarded, but seriously, it isn't opposite land, I'm sure with some effort even your thick skulls could accommodate a proven and working system. Unfortunately however, the current generation who was churned out of the failsystem clearly don't have the capability to make sound judgments, if retards like you are any indication, which would lead America to an infinite cycle of fail, with every modification the system would be getting worse, because with every generation the product would be even more retarded, and making even more retarded decisions.

>>113
This poster speaks truth.

back in the days, if you failed, you were eaten by a predator. We need that back.

Liberal faggotry is to blame.
Everyone knows it, even the libs.
ABOLISH THE DEPT. OF EDUCATION!!!
THE SEPERATION OF SCHOOL AND STATE!!!

>>114
No, you're incorrect.  The retards are people like YOU, by your expecting the public school system in the US to fix itself by adopting an even more Socialist model from other nations with markedly different demographics and socio-economic makeup.

The fact remains that the public schools in the USA are failing and failing heavily, while costing greatly just to feed a class of unionized LOSERS (teachers and administrators).  Each and every attempt to "reform" them only involves the same class of unionized LOSERS, and predictably they elect not to change their compensation or how they fail to educate.

The only remaining answer that remains is to REMOVE the authority of the unionized LOSERS from the school system.  This authority is removed by removing the MONOPOLY the public system has.  After that, market forces MUST force changes ... even if it's just to force failing public schools to close down and re-open as cheaper ones (failing or not, since they're CHEAPER, you fuckwit!).

To reiterate:  If Finland's system uses "educational professionals" to run a public school system, then that SAME MODEL is already operating (i.e. failing to educate) in the USA.  We've thrown MORE MONEY and MORE PROFESSIONALS at the same problem in the USA for decades.  It's not working and Finland has nothing to teach us since it has nothing to export.  What has NOT been tried is what worked a long time ago:  COMPETITION.

You're just afraid to adopt educational competition (i.e. privatization) since it opposes your Socialist upbringing.  Well, FUCK your Socialist background.  You're so head-deep in Socialist asshole that you can't even see that your methods HAVEN'T worked in the USA and likely will NEVER work.

DERP DERP DERP PUBLIC SCHOOLS DERP DERP DERP OUR MODEL DERP DERP DERP ANYONE CAN DO IT DERP DERP DERP

>>118
>>119
Thanks for proving my claims that the retards churned out by the retarded system now will always advocate worse systems due to their incapability due to reasoning. Enjoy your education and medicine done for money, that's working soo good, right?

If the fully functional finnish system wouldn't work, it would be due to one and one only reason - your retardation.