Lets face it, public schools are made of total fail, and we spend more on education than the entire budgets of some countries. Lets stop the massive fail and get some real solutions like Educational Freedom/School Choice.
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Anonymous2008-03-20 4:18
The reason why most American school are kinda bad compare to other schools is pretty easy to see. Its goverment run and funded.
Comparing to other school in other countries is because
1.like business, there is competation and rep they must up hold
2. other countries, YOU HAVE TO PAY YOU EDUCATION.
3. Entrance exams
4. USA Education has a General idea.
5. American tend to lower the bar due to comfort levels.
6. USA kids dont take advantage of the free education that they are taking for granted.
But AMerican schools have a freedom to express their ideals. just that its not well enforced to open-ideals and becoming like a brain-washing ideal. Its really up to the desire of each person.
that doesn't stop a kid from going to a hight rep school.
This is really closing the gap of less-educated to the higher educated people. ITs a big difference who makes what money. also
to the countries future.
I went to an excellent public high school. The way to fix it is not to privatize the whole thing; I think the private sector should stay, mostly, out of basic needs.
What needs to be done is to emulate the systems they have elsewhere around the world. I attended a public school with the IB program, and was forced to compete with students globally. Right now, there's a huge fuckin' host of problems, from teacher pay and training, to facilities, to the retarded, retarded textbooks we use.
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Anonymous2008-03-21 11:29
I went to an excellent public high school. The way to fix it is not to privatize the whole thing; I think the private sector should stay, mostly, out of basic needs.
What needs to be done is to emulate the systems they have elsewhere around the world. I attended a public school with the IB program, and was forced to compete with students globally. Right now, there's a huge fuckin' host of problems, from teacher pay and training, to facilities, to the retarded, retarded textbooks we use.
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Anonymous2008-03-21 11:36
-Teacher's Union: Get rid of it.
-Problematic students should be removed from public education. They're a HUGE distraction for students who are trying to do well. It would cost a lot to set them up with special help, but in the long run everyone would be better for it.
-Better health/physical education. Not just some half-assed gym class. Kids should be getting a lot of exercise AND they need to be taught how to take care of their bodies.
In New Zealand, children over 6 and under 16 must attend school by law. This sucks because children who want to learn are stopped by children who just annoy.
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Anonymous2008-03-24 2:25
Off topic but I inferred from Obama's speech that suburban white families are forced to have their kids bussed to inner city negro schools? Is this true?
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Anonymous2008-03-24 5:51
lol @ those smug white Belgian kids talking to the reporters in their second language. Enjoy your black and brown people dragging you down America.
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Anonymous2008-03-26 15:44
What we need is Educational Freedom/School Choice. If someone is going to a failing public school they should have the freedom to go to a private school at the government's expense. The idea behind this is that then schools will need to COMPETE for students like they don't have to now, and then they will actually be accountable and have an incentive to produce a better result.
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Anonymous2008-03-26 17:12
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Yep. In an effort to create "diversity" white kids are being bussed to more "urban" schools, and minorities are being bussed into suburban schools so they have an equal chance at fucking everything up in a school that has more money.
Little does anyone realize:
-It's a HUGE inconvenience for all families involved
-Schools with more money =/= better education
-Kids being sent to urban schools are going to be hurt a lot and kids being sent to suburban schools aren't going to do much better if they aren't dragging everyone else down. Everyone loses.
-Next generation of voters will be dumber than the last. Carrot Top will be a president within 3 decades.
>Schools with more money =/= better education
Institut Le Rosey, lol
but yeah, merkins have unsalvageable education.
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Anonymous2008-03-26 20:40
The reason why America's educational system is flawed is because we continue to pursue flawed policies. I would put the teachers' unions very high on the list of causes for why education is such a sinkhole for funding.
I would also attribute a large amount of the failures to people being stupid. There are many stupid people in the nation, quite simply. There isn't much we can do about stupid people, so we may as well stop stealing tax payers (read, smart people)'s money and funneling it into the school system. Tie for the government, state and federal, to own up to their bungling of the educational system.
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Also, the "diversity" stuff is completely irrational and anti-market. Market forces should be one of the most important things we take into account when we make decisions, and the government shouldn't interfere with how people have chosen to situate themselves (ie, prosperous people largely fleeing from "colored" urban centers.)
Finally, choosing to live in different areas may be construed as racist or discriminatory, but no amount of legislation or appeals to white guilt will ever force the general public to deal with the idiocy of big city government. In short, blame the idiots down at town hall or the State House for messing up the educational system.
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Anonymous of College Park,MD2008-03-26 20:45
It is not the proper role of government to give welfare. That is my answer for all such questions. The government is often ineffective at giving aid, so thus they shouldn't do it.
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Anonymous2008-03-27 12:04
>EJUKASHON IZ ANTI MARKET HURRR DURRRR
Ahh, retarded Americans. They think having more of what makes their education system fail will actually improve it. I wonder how you would react if you knew anything about the Finnish education system - butthurt denial, maybe?
>>21
Public funding should also be connected to public control of the thing being funded. That just doesn't happen in the USA. Here, we're expected to pony up more and more taxes for failing schools, but the instant we start demanding change and accountability for all this horrible mis-spending and failure, we're locked out of school board meetings and hounded by the media (who take in a lot of school advertising -- coincidentally, I'm sure!).
The public schools in the USA are such appalling failures that PRIVATIZING them is the rational thing to do at this point. The entrenched unions that control those school districts won't allow us to do anything else ... so we must OUTFLANK them.
>>21
No, I'm saying public schools are doing poorly because they don't need to compete. A school voucher system that would force schools to compete and work harder for students would help alleviate this problem.
There is little or no competitive pressure currently placed on most of America's schools so far, and the only times voucher programs have been implemented have seen positive results. Doesn't it seem reasonable that we experiment with a voucher system for a little bit? We've given the teacher unions and the libfags like 50 years to fuck up our education system now... and we spend an utterly obnoxious amount of money on education for the shoddy product/service we receive. The only reasonable thing to do at this point is to implement this reasonable change.
COMMON LIBFAGS, I KNOW YOU GET ALL HORNY OVER THE WORD "CHANGE," SO LETS "CHANGE" THE EDUCATION SYSTEM...
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Yes, but when the Liberals say "change", it's only to get a Blackman into the Presidency. They still want to keep the schools integrated and under the thumb of the Liberals.
Real change can take place when people have their own liberty and naturally choose to congregate with their own people. Normal people will leave the public-school system, and the Blackmen will remain in it.
HÖÖÖÖRRRRRR DÖÖÖÖÖRRRRRRRRR LUK AT US, VEE ARE STUPID AMERIKANS, ACSHUALLY VEE ARE SO RETARDED VEE THINK PRIVATIZING PUBLIC SCHOOLS VILL IMPROVE EDUCATION AND VEE CRY ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE EVEN IN COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT SUBJECTS HÖRRRRRRRR
>>29
Well, continuing to throw money (taken from normal folks) at Blackmen in run-down public schools isn't working either. Education will be improved by each sector of the population seeking their own level. The normal folks will get education from private sources, which are of high quality. Blackmen will get their education from the public schools, which have been as devolved as they are, hence meeting their low level of performance.
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Anonymous2008-03-31 14:26
>>30
I think one post exposing your retardation and butthurt feelings was enough, but thanks anyway for this repetition.
>>31
It's still true that the Blackmen were not suitably challenged and uplifted by the involvement of overfunding the public schools. Retardation is best left as a useful description of the Blackmen in the public schools. There's no rational reason why money taken from use normal folks should be used to support a culture of mental retardation. That's why we have near-condemned buildings, meat and milk past the expiration date, and a lack of city services in areas frequented by the Blackman. The shoe does seem to fit, so it must be worn. I really can't make this any clearer.
>>33
There's nothing wrong with my spelling and grammar. You must have confused me with a Blackman.
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Anonymous2008-04-01 14:37
>>34
Your ironic exposure of your idiocy and repetition of BLACKMAN BLACKMAN HURRR actually leads me to believe that you're a troll, and not actually a genuine butthurt retard, but for overall effor however you do deserve a 6/10