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Privatise everything.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-09 0:50

In light of recent discoveries that the free market is the perfect economic system, we must work to privatise everything for freedom.

Unfortunately everything cannot be privatised at once since the state has made the economy and political system dependant on it's existence, thus these restrictions must be eliminated one by one before the state itself can be privatised. First would be the privatisation of state services such as education, healthcare and social security. After a few years the state should offer contracts to the private sector to fulfil roles almost exclusively monopolised by the state in the past which will include state bureaucracy aswell as minor military, emergency and law enforcement services. During the next decade or so as more and more powers are transferred to the private sector, the state should decrease in size substantially to the point where it will be feasible to privatise local government and finally the courts and central government itself.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-09 11:11

ROTFL

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-09 19:40

But what is to prevent from someone with a lot of ambition and a LOT of money from simply buying control over cities and states and other companies until they have absolute control over everything?

You'd still need some sort of government like organization to keep the free market free.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-10 7:23

>>3
YHBT

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-12 19:01

>>3
>>3
ummm really rich people are already doing that.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-12 21:54

The only thing I agree with is privatised military and police, as long as it conforms to standards, regulations, and some type of system to carefully monitor practices and prevent abuses of power.  This will get some of the gun hording rednecks out of their swastika draped bedrooms and contribute their "must defend house from IRS" arsenal to something useful, assuming they can follow directions without incident.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-13 10:13

>>6
lol, privatized military and police, what a baffoon.
IF the military and police are privately owned, who's supposed to PREVENT them from taking over? ohh, we'll just make some rules that they have to keep and then of course they will do that, because it's not like they can just shoot the people who make the rules without any repurcussion because... who can do anything to them?
gb2/burma/

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-13 10:37

>>3
What's to stop others with similiar ambitions attempting the same thing and thus competing in the free market?
>>6
Such a reality is currently not in sight since nothing like it has never been attempted other than small organisations that are below the police and military in the chain of command such as bounty hunters and military contractors. Methods to ensure private security firms obey the courts would be developped as the police administration relegates tasks to the private sector, it is not unjustified to regulate companies in the name of law enforcement, security firms would initially be heavily regulated.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-13 10:42

>>7
You believe this because you view the police as above the law and private companies as below the law. The truth is the police are below the law as they police themselves otherwise we would be living in a police state, the same could be emulated by privatised police and it would be more effective since they would compete and strive to reveal corruption in rival police forces so they can take over their jurisdictions.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-13 16:08

Ahh, retarded libertarians.

Get owned in one thread, start another...

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-14 1:41

We don't privatize everything because we'd be taking a step backwards. Firefighters used to be all private in the olden days. People used to pay a periodic fee to have the emblem of a firehouse on their home. If there was a fire and you didn't have a fire fighting company's emblem on your home, you were screwed. The only other option was volunteer bucket brigades.
Real fire departments like today didn't come into being until the late 1800's.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-14 8:00

privatise them all,then we can collectivise them

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-14 10:10

>>10
Care to join in the logical debate?
>>11
The private sector regularly sells packages of services from buying a car to holidays, the same can be done with owning or renting property in a community. Estate agents will say "this home is emergency service certified, I guarantee a team of elite blackwater commandos can reach your home within 1 minute should someone attempt to burglarise it", they may even run their own emergency service firms to increase land value.

If you live in a neighbourhood where some people are not emergency service certified then land values will drop until a noble venture capitalist buys all the property and sets up his own emergency services to increase the value of her/his new estate.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-14 10:11

>>12
Truth. You can be a syndical-anarchocommusocialist if you want if everything is privatised. Government forces cannot interfere.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-14 12:31

yeah, free market always decides the best, right? Look at my computer for example, it has a RISC process-oh wait...

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-14 12:34

>>13
"logical debate"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, yeah, if you had the ability to read, the quoted post implied that it was already attempted.

The retarded organism, which titles itself as "libertarian" lacking knowledge to the extent that he cannot formulate any intelligent opinion, takes the "extreme" ideology that will only serve his masters, while "regular" ideologies imposed already do this, this "libertarianism" works for retards who like to feel "different". When the fallacies of "libertarianism" is exposed to these aforementioned retards in a thread, they simply flee and start another thread, as their time has no value it's sad, really...

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-14 12:40

>>14
I'm sure the extremely rich capitalist with hoards of wage slaves would love to have a self-sufficient commune next door.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-14 16:22

slaves riot, and can take over the ship

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-14 17:31

>>18
Yeah, history proved that right, because it ALWAYS happened to the point that it was no longer profitab-oh wait...

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-15 9:36

>>16
I am not a libertarian. All I did was state the fact that we must privatise everything and give some insights into how this could be achieved.
>>17
There would be none since there would be no loopholes provided by the state for evil capitalists to exploit and become extremely rich.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-15 15:00

>>20
LEVEL OF IRONY AND SELF-CONTRADICTION REACHING EXTREME PROPORTIONS. BRACE FOR IMPACT.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-21 14:20

>>21
Irony because you are stating I am not capable of responding to arguments but clearly you cannot!

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-21 17:50

>>22
I'm sorry, I really don't bother replying to factually wrong statements with no sign of intelligence, if I you had the intelligence to comprehend, you probably wouldn't have bought such retarded bullshit in the first place, sorry - really, I don't blame you for your retardation, or slowness.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-21 23:41

>>23
"if I you had the intelligence to comprehend"
Freudian slip? And still no counter argument. If I am a retard do you not even possess the motivation to show me up in front of everyone by pointing out where I've gone wrong? If anyone here doesn't understand something it is your inability to understand the need for the service sector and the invisible hand of market forces.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-24 9:17

>>24
typo =/= freudian slip, whose definition you don't even know

cry more, pathetically retarded faggot.

also, lol@"invisible hand", way to use outdated and factually disproven notions.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-25 17:43

Face facts libertarianfags, government intervention does work in some cases. The reason Japan has such faster and cheaper internet than we do is that the government came in and forced phone companies to open up their lines to competitors.

Unregulated free market = Failure.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-25 19:14

Supply and demand is the cause of inflation.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-25 19:57

>>27
ummm No.  inflation is caused when a foolish government decides to print more money and devalue its currency.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-25 19:58

>>27
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-25 20:44

Not >>27 here. Inflation is caused by increased circulation of a currency in an economy aswell as when more is printed.

Consider a young farmer and blacksmith who decide to put both their signatures on 100 notes as a form of currency between them. The blacksmith buys food and the farmer buys tools. As they get older they improve their trade.

One day the blacksmith makes his first plough and the farmer says "ok here's 30 notes", but the blacksmith protests "I have to pay a note per parsnip, this plough is not worth 30 parsnips more like 500 parsnips" the farmer points out "there are only 100 notes", so the blacksmith states "I will accept an IOU of 500 notes + 50 notes for the hassle, pay me 5 notes per day or I won't trust you anymore and you will never be able to afford a plough again".

The next day the blacksmith once again feels the strong urge to obtain turnips and goes to the farmer to purchase some and to his great suprise the turnips are now being sold for 2 notes per turnip. Shocked he demands an explanation from the farmer who replies "On average you by 3 turnips a day, I must make at least one note per day to cover expenses and now that I must pay you 5 notes per day I have no choice but to double the price.".

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-25 23:57

>>30

6/10

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-26 9:26

>>30
So, which community college economics course did you fail?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-26 11:00

>>31
>>32
I was just illustrating the point that increased circulation causes inflation without unnecessary baggage, if you want to add that baggage and have me explain it to you I will do so.

Name: RedCream 2008-02-26 12:14

Let's get back to the turnips.  At least, that sort of thing will be applicable to life in the USA during the imminent Depression.

Turnips are nutritious and fairly easy to raise on your own.  Like any home-raised food, they will be important trade items during the Long Emergency.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-26 12:20

>>34
And parsnip?

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-26 14:26

>>33
Do you need me to facepalm or can you proceed with the fail you still haven't realized without it?

Name: RedCream 2008-02-26 16:17

>>35
Is there much of a consumption market for parsnip?  Not as far as I know.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-26 21:30

>>36
Oh no someone facepalm.jpg'd me on the internet! Perhaps if you attempted to disprove me I would care. Otherwise I shall have to continue to believe I am 100% and take this whole episode as further affirmation of my infallibility and manifest destiny.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-27 13:33

>>38
I see that you need me to. Also, I lol'd - I give it a 7/10 as I bought it in the beginning.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-27 15:52

>>39
I'm serious. Everything I said is true.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-28 12:28

>>40
Those statements are mutually exclusive.

Name: Anonymous 2008-02-28 16:35

>>41
Referring to >>40 and saying both statements are mutually exclusive is mutually exclusive.

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