how can we convince people Israel sucks?

I've taken part in a whole bunch of Zionism threads, and I've noticed that despite my mountains of evidence that modern Israel is a bloodthirsty, militant leech that offers nothing but pain, misery and debt to both America and her neighbors, people seem intent on defending her.  I've also noticed that very few minds are changed in these debates; i.e. people who support Israel continue to do so and people who don't support Israel continue not to.

What new tactics can be used to convince people that Israel, in it's modern Zionist form, is a scourge upon the land?

Thats right mother fuckers im back......>>18 thank god some one who has a brain...as a jew yes i am pro israel but i am also pro "why the fuck cant we just live together."(that is the opinion of most jews) And i honestly hope that this current round of peace talks amounts to something but iran needs to keep its candy ass mouth shut! The only thing that makes me angry is the people who judge all jews as a single entity we are not a collective being we are individual people just like you...there is no grate conspiracy either the only reason we were out of israel in the first place and even give a shit what goes on in the world is the muslims invaded and kick us out about the same time as the fall of rome. /thread