Holocaust callout

Hey /politics/, roughly a little over a week ago, I got into a trainwreck of a debate on /n/ regarding the holocaust, and that one archive- containing millions of documents totaling to 16 miles long- was brought up. Which had information on all the various victims of the holocaust. Then, someone brought up an email conversation they had with one of the archivists, asking if there were forensic documents indicating if any of the victims were killed by zyklon-b, which the archivists replied with no.

They still haven't replied to me asking the same thing, but it dawned on me: why the fuck would the germans have autopsies of the people they killed?

I'm posting this because the same guy asked me to post it here, and /n/ is just too much of a shithole, so....

"I'll look for a link, but I've read only about 10000 have made such "testimonies" available."

What sort of testimonies? Do you mean memoirs and full written accounts? Whoa, sorry, most people aren't going to churn that out. What about the hundreds of thousands of actual eyewitnesses? And camp guards? And nazis themselves?

"Considering that Holocaust enforcers constantly disregard eyewitness testimony not used in trials when they are used against the Holocaust story as contradictory by revisionists, I can only point that this is fucking rich. Your hypocrisy is outstanding.
You are creating a straw man. Each eyewitness which has been discredited by revisionists has been given a reason to be so, upon analysis. You're talking as if revisionists have never done that at all."

Might depend on which testimonies you're talking about. Pretty much every major historical event like this will have supposed eyewittnesses who are dissenters. I fail to see how a few dozen people who say it's bullshit out of the hundreds of thousands who say it isn't are lying. I mean, I've actually known survivors. I've seen their tatoos. Are they lying? Are the many who've gone into insane depression and have killed themselves over this lying? What's the story behind survivors? You fucking called them LIE-WITNESSES.

"Just take a sample of Holocaust survivors and see where they ended up: U.S., Israel etc"

Um, I'm talking about the millions of supposed victims. Where did they go?

"You'll have to do better."

It's pathetic because we're talking about so many insane amounts of people who've lived through it, who have seen it, who have the emotional and psychological and physical scars to back it up...

But, no, they were just getting deloused by those nice nazis. Oh, and getting typhus inejctions.

"Enjoy using shitty creationist arguments. "

Well, I don't see how this applies when we're talking about a subject of HISTORICAL REVISIONISM, not pure bullshit pseudoscience like ID. So, anything to counter that?

THEY KILLED THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY WERE BURDENED WITH THE GUILT OVER SUPPORTING THE HOLY HOLLOW HOAX ZIONKIKE MARXIST LIES!!!

ok i will ask this again what happened to my family left behind in poland why did they simply disappear and were never heard from again?

WTF is up with the tattoos on all thoes who survived the camps arms...and you fools you think the germans were actually stupid enough not to destroy the records...it would of incriminated so many people...the proof was destroyed by the germans end of story...the camps are still sitting there with the damn chambers still intact and giant furnaces that when they were found reeked of burnt flesh!

go ahead mother fuckers say it happen go for it then tell me why people who dont speak the same fucking language had the same story who were spread out in diffrent parts of poland so far away from each other how about when the camps were liberated the stories of thoes people just crawling through the streets begging for food so skinny that they might break with just the slightest touch...ok and how about all thoes ss officers who admitted to it under oath. 

But no according to you mother fuckers it never happened due to you wanting to belive some off hand conspiracy theory. wow you are almost as bad as thoes who actually think that elvis is still alive!

Hey revisionist guy, OP here. Sorry I was gone, I've been moving cross-country. I getting that phora guy to reply.

Hahaha, oh wow. Angry Jew, you're a complete tool. The question isn't wheter or not people died during WW2, or wheter or not people died in concentration camps (in fact, many did - many due to rampant sicknesses and malnurishment towards the end of the war. In part because supply lines were bombed by the allies).

The question is wheter or not there was an industrial-scale genocide towards jews and other so-called "undesirables". The camps are still there, yes. But there's no actual forensic evidence that there was gassing of human beings in those camps. The supposed gas chambers of, say, Auschwitz, were conveniently destroyed.

Someone mentioned tattoos: Tattoos on prisoners or convicts were not an uncommon practice - just like concentration camps in general, especially in wartime.

The admissions by SS officers were admissions during torture and whilst being under the threat of death penalty - They aren't worth squat.

The fact is that an industrial killing at the scale of the supposed Holocaust would've been impossible - just disposing of the bodies, during winter no less, would be impossible. Nor have any massgraves been found of supposed "gas victims" - most of the massgraves seen on photographs are victims of typhus or casulties of war.

Over and out, I'm not coming back.

>>49
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>>49
no bodies... what do you think the giant ovens were for, pizza?
mmmmmm, chewy jew pizza....

>>48
Well, I haven't posted ITT since >>34, others did. :-)
It's too messy here to identify who said what. I never claimed to want to debate the Phora guy, by the way. If he however decides to pick on others' statements and attribute them to me, his loss.

The Niggers did it. Some coons from Africa where allowed to run the camps by the Germans. The Germans had man power shortages, and couldnt trust niggers to fight in the front. SO they decided to let them gaurd the camps.

Anyway the Niggers got drunk, and started shoting the camps up. "YO JEW HOMIE YAH DISSING ME?" They cried out as the popped caps in the hews. They then took the jew gold, and melted them down to make gold chains.

Oh course the Germans where angry at the naughty nig nogs, so they slapped them on the wrist, and banned them from KFC for the rest of the war. The Niggers defected too the allies after this, as they couldnt do without KFC. "I'm no longer down with the Ayran sect yah know wot I am saying?" They told the Allies.

That my frinds is what really happend during the holocaust

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>>53
LOL'ed. But what about Zyklon-B killings? Niggers would be too stupid to open Zyklon-B canisters without killing themselves, so your theory falls.

"Hahaha, oh wow. Angry Jew, you're a complete tool. The question isn't wheter or not people died during WW2, or wheter or not people died in concentration camps (in fact, many did - many due to rampant sicknesses and malnurishment towards the end of the war. In part because supply lines were bombed by the allies)."

I've always liked that exscuse. "They died of typhus and other diseases  so leave the nazis alone!!!" That's like saying you can't be held responsible for the deaths of people you locked in your fucking basement for the same thing.

Oh, but this was mostly due to the allies. I hope to god you aren't offering up some cheap-ass apologetics.

"The question is wheter or not there was an industrial-scale genocide towards jews and other so-called "undesirables". The camps are still there, yes. But there's no actual forensic evidence that there was gassing of human beings in those camps. The supposed gas chambers of, say, Auschwitz, were conveniently destroyed."

Wait, there was NO genocide?

"Someone mentioned tattoos: Tattoos on prisoners or convicts were not an uncommon practice - just like concentration camps in general, especially in wartime."

Oh, of course. Then again, were the survivors lying about this? Why do they all somehow chime in on saying these hooked up with the genocide?

"The admissions by SS officers were admissions during torture and whilst being under the threat of death penalty - They aren't worth squat."

Yes. Those tens of thousands of SS members and other assorted german personnell lied under threat of torture. Fucking amazing.

"The fact is that an industrial killing at the scale of the supposed Holocaust would've been impossible - just disposing of the bodies, during winter no less, would be impossible. Nor have any massgraves been found of supposed "gas victims" - most of the massgraves seen on photographs are victims of typhus or casulties of war."

Weird, because the holocaust went on for several years, not just one winter, and there's also how many other genocides on a similar scale to the holocaust went on during similar time periods with similar technologies.

"Over and out, I'm not coming back. "

Well, nice to see you fold up on the topic of eye-witnesses- oh, I mean LIE-witnesses like all other revisionists do. BTW, could you seriously drop those lameass buzzwords in these debates like holyhoax, holocaustianity, lie-witnesses etc. in these debates? That lexicon you revisionists cooked up doesn't make you look funny or hardcore- no, it just makes you look like arrogant, self-aggradizing assholes.

>>56
Way to mix several people's posts.
I've always liked that exscuse. "They died of typhus and other diseases  so leave the nazis alone!!!"
That's like saying you can't be held responsible for the deaths of people you locked in your fucking basement for the same thing.
He didn't say that, he didn't imply that as far as I see. He said it doesn't matter whose fault in it in this debate, because this is not what "deniers" "deny." This [typhus, malnourishment, etc.] however isn't part of a plan of mass genocide.
Wait, there was NO genocide?
I see him talking about gas chambers. No, there were no homicidal gas chambers and you can't prove there were, to my knowledge.
Oh, of course. Then again, were the survivors lying about this? Why do they all somehow chime in on saying these hooked up with the genocide?
No, of course not. And tattoos also don't prove homicidal gas chambers.
Yes. Those tens of thousands of SS members and other assorted german personnell lied under threat of torture. Fucking amazing.
Wow, amazing.
Weird, because the holocaust went on for several years, not just one winter,
Weird, because the guy didn't say it went on for just one winter, he talked about the disposing of bodies during winter.
and there's also how many other genocides on a similar scale to the holocaust went on during similar time periods with similar technologies.
Do tell more.
Well, nice to see you fold up on [...]
Enjoy acting like everyone is the same person despite having announced that it's not in an earlier post.

>>55
I told you it wasnt gas. It was niggers carrying guns trying to be bling bling.

Irving v Penguin Books.

Know it. Love it.

>>59
I as a Holocaust non-believer do.
It's quite hilarious if you read the trial transcripts. They even put them up somewhere like holocaustdenialontrial.com... I lol'ed heartily on some of the shitty arguments presented by them. The best way to disprove Holocaust believers and make them look like retards actually lies on anti-revisionist websites such as nizkook and that one. :-)
The best thing about it is Irving is not even a revisionist, nor does he look like he read any revisionist literature, nor did he try to put forth a real argument against the Holocaust story, yet that didn't stop Lipstadt from making a total fool of herself.

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