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Holocaust callout

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-23 14:23

Hey /politics/, roughly a little over a week ago, I got into a trainwreck of a debate on /n/ regarding the holocaust, and that one archive- containing millions of documents totaling to 16 miles long- was brought up. Which had information on all the various victims of the holocaust. Then, someone brought up an email conversation they had with one of the archivists, asking if there were forensic documents indicating if any of the victims were killed by zyklon-b, which the archivists replied with no.

They still haven't replied to me asking the same thing, but it dawned on me: why the fuck would the germans have autopsies of the people they killed?

I'm posting this because the same guy asked me to post it here, and /n/ is just too much of a shithole, so....

Name: Anonymous 2007-11-23 16:37

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Hey, that guy here.

I'll recap what I said about the Bad Arolsen archives:

Until 1978 it was part of the IRC (International Red Cross) and had a kind of "historical section" open to any researchers, published statistics etc.

Partly due to Arthur Butz, an American revisionist who dug in and noticed they verify the revisionist thesis, it then got dissolved, the access to researchers forbidden, the open publication of statistics prohibited, the annual report of activities became secret... [I should add, that kosher enough researchers could access them after 1978, only if they bear a special authorisation from about 10 governments who signed an agreement with the Archives, including Israel]

Thus, the media hype of "closed until now" is bullshit in the first place. IF the Bad Arolsen archives contained anything that would disprove revisionists, the Holocaust historians would have used it by now, wouldn't they?

Anyway, revisionists have managed to leak a couple of memos, in 1979, 1984, and in 1993. The latest known report cites 296,081 verified deaths recorded at Arolson, as of January 1993 (www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.html) and gives a breakdown camp by camp. This total omits deaths at Chelmo, Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka and the victims in the ghettos.

During the Zuendel trials, a guy working there has also talked about what's there: http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/10biedermann.html

One more aspect that is overblown about it is what the ITS also holds files for: millions of other deportees, especially non-Jewish forced labourers from Western and Eastern Europe, but also the victims of ethnic expulsions in Central and Eastern Europe after 1945.

Now, to answer your questions.
why the fuck would the germans have autopsies of the people they killed?
I did not say "autopsies" (though it may very well be included -- you do know that they had a health care system, hospitals, doctors etc.? And they did have several documented autopsies that I know of, but don't ask me to source them, it would be really hard from where I'm standed), I asked, like you said, about forensic documents indicating any victim of gassings. Which, in plain English, means if they established, with any sort of proof, a gassing victim. They unsurprisingly haven't.

Anyway, all of this is media hype. We already know what the ITS contains, and it's certainly not proof of what is alleged unless it is heavily modified, which I doubt. I'll post a pic later of a leaked memo if I find it, I think I have it somewhere. Having revisionists barred from researching it is, however, very telling. And it's not "opened" yet, at least not more than before.

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