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DNA Pioneer: Africans are less intelligent

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-16 21:45

One of the world's most eminent scientists was embroiled in an extraordinary row last night after he claimed that black people were less intelligent than white people and the idea that "equal powers of reason" were shared across racial groups was a delusion.

James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in the unravelling of DNA who now runs one of America's leading scientific research institutions, drew widespread condemnation for comments he made ahead of his arrival in Britain today for a speaking tour at venues including the Science Museum in London.

The 79-year-old geneticist reopened the explosive debate about race and science in a newspaper interview in which he said Western policies towards African countries were wrongly based on an assumption that black people were as clever as their white counterparts when "testing" suggested the contrary. He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence could be found within a decade.

http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-16 22:20

Watch those savage beasts initiate a bloodletting, they know Watson's statement to be true and therefore they will not languish in the reality as developed minds would, instead they will riot and pursue their usual beastly ways of igniting buildings which have nothing to do with Watson.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-16 22:31

OP here..  i don't know. Are there genetic differences between people?  Yes.  Do Africans score lower on IQ tests?  Yes.But to say absolutely that the former is the sole determinant for the later seems to be an overreach.  Smart people can come in all colors.

Childhood malnutrition is a more accurate indicator of adult intelligence than race.  It's funny how people forget you need complex fatty acids for brain development, and if you're growing up eating rice and stale bread you're not going to be Einstein Jr.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-16 22:42

>>3

Number 2 here. Another thing which is not considered is the neural networks that are established and created in brains are also foundational to the intelligence of the individual.

If I recall, there are academic studies that concern people with intelligence quotents greater than 150 and most had smaller brain cavities, but the brain itself adapted and subsequently, the neurology was bundles of tightly packed neurons instead of neurons across vast distances and different relations.

Sure, malnutrition in Africa could be a variable which creates their dumbfuck people, but you also must consider that if we feed them any food whatsoever, that they will be enabled to produce more shitskins and those shitskins will keep breeding so long as that we keep providing food to them and enabling their uterus' to produce more mouths to feed.

You'll never hear this from a charity organization, but if you reason it out, it makes sense. By feeding them, we are increasing their carrying capacity to a degree much larger than their carrying capacity can sustain without foreign intervention.

The reason they're starving is because they've exceeded the carrying capacity (hereby CC). The CC is then inflated by Western Foods and after that occurs, the West will be expected to meet the demands of CC' or CC prime.

This is a problem which has no solution.

I never asked to be born into this hell and I'm pissed I have to experience and observe humanity.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-16 22:43

James Watson as in Watson & Crick?  Must be a blow to his reputation

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-16 22:46

>>5

So substantiate your claim that what he believes is wrong or otherwise you're implicitly advocating that we destroy the virtue of freethinking.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-16 23:46

If some groups of people can be smaller than others, and some have darker skin than others, why can't some groups be brighter than others?

The difference probably isn't great, and there's that whole nurture thing, but I'd be very surprised if the ability to reason was unaffected by heritage. Why are we brighter than ants then?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-16 23:48

>>7

Often times I think ants are brighter in a pragmatic sense. They have a caste system that would make Max Weber wet his pants, a chemical pheromone communication and are hardcore survivalists.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 0:21

>>8
I can't argue with that. The likelihood of them nuking the planet or killing off their species with infectious agents is nil.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 0:24

>>9

Oh, I KNOW there would be life on Earth come a disaster like a meteorite/comet/nuclear apocalypse.

There are animals that live in the benthic zone of abyssal planes that live in ecosystems that are built on chemosynthesis. That is to say, these ecosystems replicate ecosystems on Earth, only that this ecosystem is built on chemicals instead of solar energy.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 0:42

people will never die off like the dinosaurs.  you fat amerikkkans my not realize it, but the human body is remarkably efficient when it come to food.  an adult man can live off just 1000 calories a day, a woman even less.  to put that in perspective, it's like two ice cream bars.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 1:11

>>11

It's somewhat hard to get 1000 calories when political institutions, the climate, and food stocks go to shit.

We are talking Mad Max here and no ability to grow crops, not something that's easily survived by "roughing it out" without Big Macs or whatever the stereotype is for us Americans these days.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 2:54

>>12
An adult male hunter gatherer burns 3000+ calories a day obtaining food to feed his family, even more in a cold environment.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 4:59

ITT faggoty egalitarians who shut off anyone who challenges their feeble beliefs.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 7:21

This is hilarious. Someone says something that doesn't go with the liberal religion, and he automatically becomes a nutter, despite his over-the-top qualifications.
James Watson as in Watson & Crick?  Must be a blow to his reputation

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 10:54

ITT
>BAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>I MAY NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING
>BUT I'M WHITE
>SO LIKE THINK I KNOW SHIT OK GUYZ
>IT MAKES ME FEEL ANGRY THAT I'M DUMB
>BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY MY SKIN COLOR
>NO SIREE!!!
>IT MEANS I'M PART OF A SUPER SPECIAL HAPPY FRIENDS CLUB!!!
>AND BY MEMBERSHIP, IT SHOULD BE ASSUMED THAT I, TOO, SHARE IN THE GROUP'S HIGHEST INTELLIGENCE
>EVEN IF IT IS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT I AM NOT

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 10:56

>>16

We may never amount to anything, yes that's right. However, in doing nothing at all, at least we have the fortune to reason with excellence (unlike some bongo party savages).

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 16:01

>>11
Lol Eurofag following the Euro trend because it's cool to hate the U.S. and spell AMERIKKAN!

Lol, silly Eurofags.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 16:03

Bongo party savages can reason pretty well on their own world.
Try living with them and i'm pretty sure your reason will get you killed in no time.
:p

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 16:08

>>19

I don't need to live with them if we can deploy ICBMs, a force they cannot even imagine.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 16:23

>>9

The possibility of them creating art or traveling the stars is also nil.

>>12

It's really not that hard. Those same "savages" you relentlessly mock with idiotic bigotry will survive just fine once "the superior white brain" destroys modern civilization.

>>17

Pathetic. You're pretty much no better than them, then. You just play a different bongo. What is so fortunate about being able to wield useless and ineffectual reason?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 17:52

>>21

Compare their political institutions with Western civilization's political institutions.

The very idea you present is controversial, in that they're unable to effectively govern themselves as is, not only that -- a GAO or Government Accountability Office is an alien idea to those bongo playing savages.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 18:17

>>22
that's culture, not intellegence.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 18:21

>>4

That's why any air agency worth its salt assists more in building infrastructure. Food drives are for immediate assistance in situations such as famines, then they work on supplying the factors lacking in successful food production.

And remember, it's a tad more difficult to grow food in Equatorial Africa than in your windowsill. Crops fail because of drought, not lack of work.

"Give a man a fish, and he will eat for an evening. Teach a man to fish, and he will eat for the rest of his life."

Added bonus for essential fish oils.

>>11

'Can live off', perhaps, but not for a long time. The average male requires at least 2500-3000 calories, women slightly less. Go down into 1000 calories/day, and you're getting into weight loss territory. And not the 'good kind'.

>>15

'The respected journal Science wrote in 1990: "To many in the scientific community, Watson has long been something of a wild man, and his colleagues tend to hold their collective breath whenever he veers from the script."' (from above article)

>>22

Bush Administration? Just because the West has more elaborate political institutions, does not make them any better.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 18:57

GTFO racists and gb2/science, biologists conclude that the only difference between races is melanin concentration and that we are more similar to each other than any other species.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 19:27

>>23

"that's culture, not intellegence"

Yes, I trust your call being you can't even properly spell intelligence.

>>25

That's what Watson is, a scientist.
Take a look at albino blacks and you'll see the differences aren't only skin deep.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 20:00

>>24

a pound of fat has 3500 calories.  so if you eat a 1000 calories a day, then you're 1500 calories deficient.  your body would burn half a pound of fat a day to make up for the loss.  so if you're 50 pounds overweight (the average American) you could survive 100 days before just getting to your normal weight and another 100 to become severely malnourished. 

tl;dr - the average american could make it 200 days on 1000 calories a day

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 20:08

ummm.... the purpose of life is nothing more than the propagation of DNA and on this front white people FAIL MISERABLY

Name: LordRiordan 2007-10-17 20:23

>>28
If you are bacteria.

Stfu

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 20:24

>>28

Very true.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 20:29

>>29

umm.. it's called Life.  survival of the fittest.  you might want to read into it sometime.

Name: LordRiordan 2007-10-17 20:34

That doesn't describe the survival of the fittest you ignorant tit.

Because most humans have a brian, we are able to construct new meanings to life.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 20:40

>>32

Richard Dawkins has described the purpose of life as nothing more than the propagation of DNA.  Only about 20% of our DNA actually means anything.  The rest is simply junk DNA along for the ride.  The DNA isn't conscious obviously, but it does control our genetics and consequently our evolution.  If white women only have one kid, they FAIL.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 21:10

>>33

You're making the assumption that isolated communities of whites which will never in a million years allow blacks in are just going to throw up their arms and accept blacks.

The Amish and similar groups will always be on the fringe, ever living their lives without the infestation of monkeys.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 21:23

>>26
GTFO racist.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 22:04

>>35

GTFO scrub. Science only works with facts, not the bullshit you learn in your Liberal Arts classes.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 22:48

>>33
>Richard Dawkins has described the purpose of life as
Wow.  Paraphrasing your Lord and Savior I see.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 23:09

>>37

I said something logical that can be supported by many different premises.  You said "duurrrrrrrrrrr!"

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 23:18

>>38
I merely pointed out the fact that you cited him and it is interesting considering how fanatic his followers are.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-17 23:31

>>39

lol so you're admitting there's no substance to your argument only a hollow ad hominem?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-18 1:11

>>38
>>40
stop quoting dawkins fag, he is responsible for turning atheism into another shitty religion

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-18 1:39

>>41

another post with ZERO content hmm....

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-18 2:01

>>22

All political institutions have habitually failed and continue to fail. Politics is basically the root of all socially accepted stupidity.


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