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Should the holocaust be re-examined?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-25 23:05 ID:+ldXddB0

First of all I don't hate jews at all, I know most jews are honest good people and have been brainwashed into the (in my opinion) Holocaust hoax just as much as everyone else. In fact I don't hate any race, I think all races should live independently in their own democratic sovereign nations. I support a homeland for the Jews just as I do for the Palestineans.

Anyways no event in history should be exempt from scholarly review, we still research things that happened 2000 years ago, why is the Holocaust the one event throughout history that is unquestionable? Why do people who express different views from the mainstream imprisoned? Shouldn't information be available and scrutinized by the public? Surely simple logic would prove or disprove the validity and legitimacy of such information, why don't the mainstream media and scholars let logic determine the outcome for itself, surely if there is nothing to hide then an open debate that examines all sides of the story will prove that the official story of the holocaust is true would it not? Why is the investigation of the Holocaust only carried out by an extremely small number of people (most jews.) Surely this can't lead to an unbiased reflection of reality, the jews after all had large problems with Germans long before Hitler took power.

Is it really fair to imprison people just for having a different view?

Please read / watch with an open mind and decide for yourself.


****Articles**** (FIRST ONE RECOMMENDED! PLEASE READ)
Did 6 million really die? (There are multiple parts, check the bottom left)
http://www.ihr.org/books/harwood/dsmrd01.html

A look at a German concentration camp ? Bergen Belsen
http://ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n3p23_Weber.html

Jewish deaths in German concentration camps
http://ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p335_Nordling.html
http://ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p219_Buchner.html

Holocaust reparation payments, etc.
http://ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n6p19_reparations.html
http://ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p243_Weber.html
http://natvan.com/free-speech/fs0010d.html
http://natvan.com/free-speech/fs987c.html

****VIDEO****
http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/

**** Unrelated to the Holocaust****
Control of the mass media
http://natvan.com/who-rules-america/index.html

The Jewish role in the Bolshevik revolution
http://ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

Germany in the mid and late 1930?s
http://ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p299_Degrelle.html

?Crystal Night?
http://ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p183_Weckert.html

German attack on the Soviet Union
http://ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n3p40_Michaels.html

The behavior of the Germans in occupied Paris
http://ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p376_Lutton.html

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-28 0:01 ID:tdnb8Rvg

>>40
Another guy here.
Auschwitz was not liberated by the Americans, rather by the Russians, LOL. Though I've seen one kooky Holocaust survivor claim that he was in Auschwitz and liberated by the Americans. No camp that is now considered a death camp was liberated by the Americans, since on the Eastern side, the commies allow no research to be done.

You're way off.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-28 0:05 ID:tdnb8Rvg

*since on the Eastern side the commies allowed no research to be done and so the myth lived on. At first there were claims of American liberated camps as death camps, but they were quickly disproved by Western research (despite there being actually Jewish witnesses for gassings in Western liberated camps, LOL.)

Sorry, fixed.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-28 0:45 ID:cNjDJIvo

Is there some sort of link validating this red cross stuff?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-28 1:26 ID:Jop5OGIS

Why did most jews voluntarily go with the Germans from Auschwitz to Belsen father than get liberated by the Soviets? The germans treated the jews much better than what they deserved.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-28 1:40 ID:Jop5OGIS

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-28 4:48 ID:LqxEPB1q

the funny thing is that when I was a teenager, I though all holocaust revisionists were fucking insane racist.  But now, I'm not so sure.  While I think it's bad idea to question the holocaust, I can't reconcile my hesitations with the abject LACK of reasonable discussion / research on the topic. 

I'm sure Jews dies in terrible numbers.  We should research the camps to see how many and why.  I'm sure the total won't be anywhere near six million.  The total may not even be over 100,000.

We need to exhume the graves.  It doesn't demean the suffering of those who died.  It gives us knowledge of who they were, how many and why.

This all seems reasonable.  Ahmadinejad said as much and he was actually booed.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-28 6:35 ID:HD4SdDuR

>>43

The Red Cross visited at least: Auschwitz[1] in September 1944, Dachau in March 1945[2], and Theresienstadt in June 1944, the favourable results angering the World Jewish Congress[3]. They also visited Katyn, which was later purposefully blamed on the Germans when in fact the Russians did it.

[1] Red Cross (1947), 91-92
[2] Red Cross (1948), vol. 1, 620; vol. 3, 83, 184; Red Cross (1947), 82-84
[3] Reitlinger, 176-186.

References:

    * Red Cross. International Documents sur l’activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les camps de concentration en Allemagne (1939-1945), Geneva, 1947.
    * Red Cross. International. Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities During the Second World War (Sept 1, 1939-June 30, 1947), 3 vols., Geneva, 1948.
    * Gerald Reitlinger, The Final Solution, 2nd ed., Vallentine, Mitchell, London, 1968.
Original sources. Unlike what >>45 posted.

>>45
Really, dude, I don't know if you're trolling or not but judicial-inc.biz is a website ran by a Jew who has at least half the stuff there easily verifiable wrong. The only reason he's doing this is for people to easily ad hominem some accurate stuff there with the rest inaccurate shit. I'm 99% certain that's the case. It's like jewwatch.com ... a honey-pot or whatever it's called. Both websites claim that everyone alive that was ever significant or did something bad was a Jew, LOL. I don't mean to insult, but DON'T use these websites as a primary source, ever. They guys running this are obvious tools.

>>46
>I'm sure the total won't be anywhere near six million.  The total may not even be over 100,000.

You're wrong on this. Depends what you mean by Holocaust. If the Holocaust is the planned extermination (in the camps and beyond), 0 since there wasn't any EXTERMINATION. But we HAVE German camp records. All revisionists believe in the authentic camp records, recording mostly deaths by typhus and not one gassing. For example, in the Auschwitz Death Books there are recorded, if memory serves me, 74,000 deaths out of which 30,000 were verified to be Jews. They are incomplete though, so the death toll is slightly higher. ;) The Holocaust enforcers claim that the Jews who supposedly came and supposedly 'got gassed immediately' weren't entered in those records, so cross-checking them is impossible. Basically a sick conspiracy theory, with nothing to support it just like 9/11 truthers.
Again, we have German camp records, and they prove it's over 100,000. Then we also have the partisans, though some of the claimed 'reports' were proven false by revisionists. Of course, some terrorist Jews got executed, and no one denies that. But that wasn't extermination. Anyone engaging in anti-Axis activities got arrested or killed on the Eastern Front. Both sides were doing this. It was an unregulated war. Then we also have some deaths in the camps at the very end of them, which weren't recorded.
So I'd guess the deaths number *is* over 100,000, but due to disease, typhus and lawful (depends -- but you get my point) execution, rather than extermination of all Jews.

>This all seems reasonable.  Ahmadinejad said as much and he was actually booed.

I personally don't like Ahmadinejad as a spokesman for revisionism. It is true that he only expressed doubt, and that doubt is very well founded, but he COULD have just looked at the revisionist arguments and blow the house of cards that is the Holocaust on stage. He calls himself a scholar, doesn't he? :-)

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-28 8:36 ID:Jop5OGIS

The jews have been trying to get a homeland for centuries. They are trying to fulfill their prophecies thats what Zionism is. The jews tried the same thing in WWI, only no one bought it back then. It was disgusting what they did to the Germans, tortured the hell out of them, Eichmann was brainwashed. Loads of innocent Nazi's were hung *many jews admitted they gave false testimony*

The Germans never had any planse to exterminate any jews, the 'final solution' was the total expulsion of all jews from Europe. Stop the blackmail, people must wake up, the white race is dieing, we will be the minority in our own country's in less than 50 years. Its happening everywhere, whites self segregate anyway, where are we gonna run when all our countrys are taken over???

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