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Freedom is free by definition

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-11 2:50 ID:MazHLo0+

To those of you people commemorating the anniversary of 9/11 and say that "Freedom isn't free"..  what you refer to as "Freedom" shouldn't be considered Freedom.. it's actually something else.  For true freedom is free with no obligations.

However, whether true freedom can ever exist is an open debate.

Discuss

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-11 2:59 ID:cY96xMal

true freedom in your sense does not exist...but i agree freedom is not free and what we call freedom at least in the u.s. is alot better then thoes countries without what we call freedom.

Name: LordRiordan 2007-09-11 3:40 ID:uZcOMnaQ

Freedom only exists in privacy.

Name: RedCream 2007-09-11 3:49 ID:tWDzICiz

>>3
Partially true.  Freedom also exists outside of privacy by a society that is tolerant of liberty.  That's not the USA any longer, BTW.  We can't fucking wait to vote away everyone's liberty for a little, temporary safety.

Name: LordRiordan 2007-09-11 3:53 ID:uZcOMnaQ

There is nothing to stop regulation in any society. Freedom will always slowly rot away.

I've always wanted a branch of the government that always de-regulates laws.. That or laws expire fast.

Name: regientofsocks 2007-09-11 5:38 ID:KCzmc4d3

so since our own gov't seems so happy to take away our own freedom, i ask is true freedom worth the cost?

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-11 6:31 ID:asFyQEzG

Freedom is practice and recognition of self-sovereignty and that's what it amounts to.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-11 13:37 ID:SLXSX9Ix

Freedom exists when you can do what you want in public without fear.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-11 13:39 ID:SLXSX9Ix

>>1
You misunderstood.

What they meant by "freedom isn't free" is that freedom has had to be paid for in blood countless times in history and we should never take it for granted.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-11 16:39 ID:JIZHyi5I

>>1
you're an idiot

>>9 understood the meaning of this phrase, learn from him

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-11 18:06 ID:asFyQEzG

>>8

That's not freedom when it disobeys the laws of a democratic society that through public institutions framed.

Essentially, you're acting against freedom. Social Contract theory is a give and take relationship with the state.

Name: Anonymous 2007-09-14 3:44 ID:ZdOauH8x

>>11
It applies to everyone. So if you do something in public that causes injury to another or their property it causes fear and thus should be illegal. However being black or jewish is fine.

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