Why We Fight

If any one ever gets a chance to see this movie...WATCH IT!!!!! Its the movie farenhight 911 schuld of been the movie that schuld of been put on the big screen. It does not go on insulting people or individuals but shows you the situatuion with known facts and pieces them together...

The best part of the movie WWF, in my opinion, is Ike's speech, that warned us in precise detail to avoid having the society that we went ahead and built anyway.  That's why the Republic is dead, or at least in part.

The rightwingnuts love to say that America defeated Fascism in WWII.  The sad truth is that America did so by becoming Fascist itself.  It's now up to other nations to put a stop to American Fascism.

that movie didn't really prove anything.  i could see how you would like it if you were a panty-waist gay though

I just finished watching it and i know its true because ive been a part of this military-industrial machiene ive been trained to support it. Ive seen this machiene in action and ive helped it continue. Now i almost feel ashamed but it was what i was raised to do.

>>3
the movie didnt have to prove anything if you were part of it you know that its true.

do you know what they call a jewish woman's boobs? Jewobs

>>3
That's two standard, rightwingnut dismissive responses there.  By definition, your posting is invalid.

To return your posting to validity, you'd need to take even one segment of the movie and demonstrate how it didn't "prove anything".  For example, are you dismissing Ike's speech?  If so, which part?  Etc.

>>7

you're missing the point.  the movie tries to say we're locked into fighting because of evil corporation$ that want our money and force us to go to war. that's a red herring

the real reason we go to war is that someone let zionists into the pentagon. 

>>8
I can see your point, but I don't think it's correct at its widest point.  Zionist influence can't be denied, but it's rather foolish to deny the clear influence of the "military-industrial complex".  Not all corporations in America are (or were) so dominated by Jews.

No, I'm going to have to continue asserting that the evil corporations did indeed promote the culture of endless warfare so that they could continue to enjoy economic supremacy.  America was always in such a danger, as Jefferson so memorably warned us about so long ago.  We barely listened to Jefferson, and by the time Ike hit, we learned to stop learning, really.  He could have quoted Jefferson directly and it wouldn't have done any good.

Say some people oppose a war. What happens? They are often called cowards and told to leave the country. Who hasn't heard the insult, "You're a coward! If you don't like it here, get out!" People who say such things think they're being patriotic; in reality they're acting like animals. Emotional, irrational, herd animals, prone to the fear and flight activated by propaganda. Individuals think; groups do not, and cannot.

Narcissism is our inborn tendency to see everything as grandiose or devalued, good or bad, with nothing in-between. It's why nearly every tribe in the world -- and nations are just tribes writ large -- called itself "the People," "the Humans," "the Chosen," "the Motherland," "the Fatherland," or "the greatest nation on earth," relegating everyone outside the tribe to a devalued non-people, non-human status (aka "collaterial damage"). No wonder it's so easy to kill the outsiders -- they're just not quite human.

When you combine those three concepts, you have the basis for all propaganda. If a leader of a tribe tells the people their goodness is under attack by insane, evil people who want to destroy them, they will react just like animals and attack. The Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels noticed all you had to do to get people to march off to war is for the leaders to tell them they were under attack, denounce protestors as traitors exposing the tribe to danger, and the people would slander, ostracize and expell the protestors, and then tramp straight off to be slaughtered. He said this technique worked in every country of the world.

I forgot -- there is one another component to sucessful propaganda: keep repeating the message over and over and over.

What?? You guys jerking each other off?

Can't you come up with anything more origional than nazism, fascism and those terrible, evil corporations? And of course that includes anyone who disagrees with you.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Well hell heres one for you why dont we all just fucking REBEL. U know spice up your country a lil bit start a fascist, aggressive, Independent Rabell ghroup in your country and try to throw over the government.      Hmmm, ne brain stroms on how to start to throw over a government
. My first guess would be black mail the military leaders.  or pay them off

>>11
Why does the truth have to be more original for you?  Does an old truth become invalid merely from its age?  I guess with you, that's true, which is why you suck cocks and eat cum.

SUCK COCKS AND EAT CUM

>>11
"A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
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