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What is it with Black men and White women?

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 3:23 ID:f7+8TVEP

What happened to Black pride? Get your head our of your ass and date a nice African-American women, son.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-20 7:19 ID:P4CFb4SG

Black pride went out with the Panthers.  Remnants of the Panthers just went legit and supported the same socio-economic system that ensures Blacky stays down.  Hence, we end up with the Black yearning for Whiteflesh, driven either by true sexual desire or the more perverse desire to punish.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 1:40 ID:0V37T4ml

>>2
>>1
 
None of this shit matters. There are black and whites who just flat out fall in love, there's nothing you can do about it. The only reason white nationalist and other racists are crying about black pride is because they don't want black dudes banging "their women".

Here's a shocker: One of many reasons it was so easy for white women to AUTOMATICALLY start fucking other races was because they didn't feel like they should be just as "OWNED" by white men.

People will fuck who or whatever they want, to even whine out about in anyway is fascist.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 11:29 ID:anqoKRgE

>>3

Your theory has a hole in it... white men don't go berserk to fuck a gorilla nosed nigger woman.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-21 12:17 ID:Iyb8CG/7

>>3
Was I whining?  No, I was just noting that Black+White unions tend to have larger social problems associated with them.  Such couples don't need to seek my approval, and I don't disapprove in the first place.  People who enter into relationships for the wrong reasons are just going to suffer and that's called matriculating from the School of Hard Knocks.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 12:41 ID:0V37T4ml

>>4

Yes, they do. It's more likely than you think. All you have to do is look at who the founding fathers ended up fucking. For more proof, look into the genetics of blacks (or any minority) and there's a white guy in the genepool somewhere and same goes for vise-versa. "Pure Races" are a fallacy for this reason.

>>5

They only have social problems associated with them because of fags like >>4 and people like you sensationalizing something ("race" mixing) that's been common place since people discovered each other. Lots of people enter into lots of different kinds of relationships for a multitude of 'wrong reasons', so what? Sounds like you're not speaking from experience. And I can tell you first hand that those kind of larger social problems don't affect 'race-mixers' because they don't believe in that kind of faggotry in the first place. To them: Everybody else can fuck off.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-21 13:06 ID:ani1u0pd

>>6
I'm just discussing the topic.  If doing so is "sensationalizing" then it only remains for us to question how we can ever discuss anything in the first place.

If you'd return to reading what I wrote, I clearly stated that there are social problems WITHIN THE COUPLE, like when one partner starts the relationship to have a trophy or victim instead of a true partner.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 13:49 ID:Dz36spmR

>>3
If they go out and let any non-white bang them just to "prove" they are not owned by white men they are retarded and I am glad their genes will not be spread to future white generations.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 17:12 ID:ibROAZld

Libertarians would privatise sperm banks and embryo screening so people can ensure their children have healthy genesspoilerin a spoiler!the need for racism will be extinguished and the world will be a better place.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 20:20 ID:0V37T4ml

>>7

I understand that you think these could be problems "WITHIN THE COUPLE" but you are wrong because people like that don't become "COUPLES" with someone outside of their race in the first fucking place.

They fetishize and it becomes solely a sexual act. The type of person that would be in a relationship with someone outside of their race (A) wouldn't do something like that because they aren't race obsessed in the first place and (B) can easily pick up on when someone is trying to do that to them.  We're not talking about casual sex, here.

Your scenario doesn't fucking exist and the only reason you think it does is out of ignorance. Step away from the bullhorn for a second and realize you're arguing about something you know fuck all about.

>>8

But by feeling the way you do about it, you're just proving their point. The only reason you don't want whites with non-white is because your perceived ownership of that person. You don't have a right to tell people who they can or can't fuck unless it's your child or something.

Plus, this doesn't apply to white women, this applies to ALL WOMEN (AND MEN) and other than LOVE this is how race mixing has gone on. My point is that this type of thing goes on naturally regardless if there is a social mechanism for it or against it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 21:41 ID:Dz36spmR

>>10
That can't be true as I just said I am glad their genes are leaving the white race.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 23:56 ID:eP0f8dsM

>>11

That's ultimately true as that choice is purely subjective and has nothing to do with the overall "intelligence" of "the whites" and let's not forget that you've already implied that you'd like it if whites would stick with their own genetic stock. If you didn't feel that way, you wouldn't feel "ownership" of white genes and it wouldn't matter who's genes went where.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-22 4:55 ID:5EyyGeeJ

>>12
2that choice is purely subjective"

As you have admitted and cannot deny, their decision is subjective not objective, this means they have low objective reasonning skills and thus their genes are undesirable.

This "you've already implied", sir, is subjective. I could say you are pathologically desperate for me to fit into your dumb hillbilly "dey takin our wimminz" stereotype as you are fearful of the facts, but that would be a mere supposition which by my standards is not a fact.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-22 5:30 ID:MvQWItBW

Excuse me for following the continuity of the thread. GB2/ >>1, >>4, >>8, >>11 - Assuming that ANY of these posts are yours then it's fairly safe to arrive to the objective conclusion that: (A) You have invested interest in the sexual habits of different races. And (B) Despite absolutely zero proof (and proof to the contrary) you feel that if a certain race fucks someone outside of their (or your) race that it's a sign of poor genetic stock or that it may be detrimental to the [previously superior] genetic make-up.

Your feelings are evident by thinking of "the white genepool" as solely yours to govern. Couple that with your constant hinting that blacks are genetically inferior and that puts you in the "dey takin our wimmiz" category whether you can comprehend that or not.

Summing up, fagboy: If you didn't have "standards" in the first place, inaccurate and illogical standards at that, then you wouldn't fit the stereotype. You even thinking about this, one way or the other is your omission of fail. Live with it, like you no doubt live with the drunken sexual abuse from your step-dad "Grand Wizard Janky".

Name: RedCream 2007-08-22 11:04 ID:DPNFwzxh

>>10
When the Black man thinks of his White GF as a trophy, that comes from within him.  Then the White woman thinks that her Black BF will piss off her father, that comes from within her.

What, are you a fucking retard or something?  THOSE interior forces were what I was talking about.  As for exterior forces ... well, I can't do anything about social perceptions of interracial couples, and neither can you.  If there's any bullhornian activity here, it's YOURS.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-22 12:02 ID:sRY0skVu

>>14
I'm not racist, I'm a meritocrat. If a black person was genetically superior I'd gladly let him impregnate my daughter.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-22 19:25 ID:pji79zR4

>>15

You're still wrong and you're still using your assflaps for a soapbox. The perception you have (within you) of that very same black man or white women is an  exterior force you place on their relationship. It's extremely, extremely, very fucking extremely rare that two people in a racially-mixed relationship think like that. That's the reason they're in a racially-mixed relationship in the first fucking place! Because they aren't racially minded!  

Furthermore, you have no fucking proof, no statistics, no anything what-so-fucking-ever that backs up your claim. "THOSE" interior forces are a figment of your racially possessed mind. And- since you are the cause- of course you can do something about those exterior forces, fuckwit. You can stop making backwards-asshat assumptions about the dynamics of a kind of relationship that you have NEVER been in.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-22 19:33 ID:4clW4fjf

dey bee takin our wimmiz!!!!!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-22 19:34 ID:pji79zR4

>>16

That....changes nothing. Take what I said in >>14 and replace race with "human" and you get the same effect. Eugenics is fucking stupid.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-22 20:08 ID:Z1s0Zzjb

>>19
Eugenics is fucking stupid.

Then go ahead and date a fat, ugly, obese motherfucker. Since Eugenics is bad an' all.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-22 22:04 ID:y1T0YP9S

>>17
Sorry, I'm not buyin' it.  People use each other all the time.  The examples I gave were standard issue.  At a certain point, you'd have to admit that you just don't speak for interracial couples and can't reach those sorts of conclusions.  Sure, we can theorize better forces, but there are ALWAYS internal forces that are detrimental.

Look, take the following advice in the best way possible:  You've been brainwashed by Liberals into thinking that racism is always external and it's all society's fault.  Consequently, you demonize all such conversations and simply can't hear of the possibility that some Black fellow is abusing his White girlfriend.  Sadly, it happens frequently enough in the Real World.  Liberals are absolutely FAMOUS for letting people off the hook for responsibility for their own behavior.  You're just repeating the same, unfounded philosophy when you dare to criticize my frankly correct viewpoint.

Your Liberal professors in that LibArts college you attended only represent a tiny piece of the American mind.  We use the term "ivory tower" for a good reason; it's to testify to the insularity of the viewpoints of the eggheads who occupy such institutions.  Don't let yourself get sucked into PC and other provably wrong thinking.  Look for yourself and understand that at the core, people are complete shits and will abuse anyone for any random reason.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 3:57 ID:G/y+IwK3

>>21

So are you telling me that whenever you see an inter-racial couple walking down the street you assume that they're together to piss each other parents off or for one to use the other as a trophy? Love, Respect and mutual understanding doesn't come first right? Not even an intense sexual connection? It just *HAS* to be about stickin' it to the 'rents or to the man?

My girlfriend and I have no problem with fucktards like you thinking that way because your attitude is actually MORE common than those who simply think: "you should stick with your race". The sad part is that they, just like you, claim that they aren't racist or bigots just before bringing up some left field shit about "Black fellows abusing their white girlfriends" (LULZ!)- as if abusive relationships have EVERYTHING to do with race!

No. The only thing that matters here is that you have no objective or even anecdotal foundation for your argument. All you have is some lame generalization you pulled out of your ass that can apply to ANY couple, be it race, sex, gender or income bracket. And that's alright. You can feel right without actually being right.

But no matter what, you're going to have to deal with the fact that your baseless assumption is an external factor you place upon others. I'd love to take what you have to say in consideration but I've been there done that. I've got personal experience and the experience of other inter-racial couples telling me otherwise. The truth is, usually inter-racial couples don't even think about race as a factor what-so-ever in their relationship until someone like you starts flapping his/her gums about something he either (A) has no experience with or (B) has deep seeded issues of his own to deal with.

As for the rest of the liberal bullshit...I'm not going to reply to it because...well...it doesn't apply to me and I thought maybe you might have been talking to someone else. I'm just going to leave you with this: What Lord Riodrain said about you is 100% true. You sound like a teenage dumbfuck regardless if you actually know what you're talking about or not. And resorting to calling everyone "brainwashed by egghead liberals" or "brainwashed by heartless rich conservatives" makes just as dumb as those stormfront faggots or those socialist hippy fuckers that populate this board. 

Name: RedCream 2007-08-23 10:36 ID:0HqgFsyo

>>22
No, I don't assume that, and that's exactly the attitude that you have that is so filled with FAIL.  I'm just speculating that there's a trend, and then I speculated on the reasons.  I'm sure there are some perfectly stable and happy interracial couples.  The anecdotal evidence indicates they are rare.  Granted, lots of couples aren't that happy with each other in the first place, but that doesn't deny the possible validity of the speculated reasons which involve race.

Your attitude is one that was programmed into you by Hyperliberalism.  You've been trained into reacting with rather insane anger against any discussion of racial note.  You can't even admit that interracial couples could be formed for racial reasons, and that means largely bad ones.  If you truly want people to be color blind (as I was taught to be), then you'd expect yourself to condemn interracial couples who "did it" for racial reasons.  But no, no, you'd rather just put a stop to discussing it all in the first place.

You're a Liberal puppet.  Someone discusses race, and you jump all over them per the commands of your masters.  Think for yourself for a change.  I really don't want to get into ad hominem, but your attitude is really extreme and compels me to go in that direction.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 14:54 ID:5R/t+feF

>>19
Yes it does. Your whole argument is based on the assumption that I am a racist, which I'm not as if a black man has superior genes and his offspring with my daughter would be healthy and intelligent and capable of producing healthy intelligent offspring I see no reason why they should not get married and have kids.

Eugenics didn't work under nazism as they were tyrants with a warped agenda. Now that the uman genome project is complete eugenics has become a reputable science and can be used to make the world a better place. What's wrong with curing type 1 diabetes, cystic fibrosis, lactose intolerance and sickle cell anaemia? It ends sufferring so if you oppose it it's the equivalent of infecting future generations with these diseases which is grievous bodily damage. Do you really want to be responsible for causing grievous bodily damage to millions of people? Who is the real mass murderer here?

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-23 23:32 ID:WsWk4Bdz

I once asked a black friend of mine. Why does he and most other black men prefer white women? His reply "Well white women... they have nice soft hair, smooth skin, and most of em don't smash you over the head with a frying pan when they think you cheating." So there is the answer coming from a black man himself who dates white women.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-24 0:41 ID:N5cvto5z

>>People will fuck who pr whatever they want
>>3

This include 11-16 year old girls. :3

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-24 0:48 ID:16b9eJmz

>>26
What if they don't want to?

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-24 0:55 ID:zNztvfTD

>>23

Blah, Blah, Blah, you should've just copy-pasted what you wrote before. All that anyone with a mind built on a foundation of reason cares about is that you're speculating about inter-racial relationship when you have never been in one and frankly, you don't know anybody in one. You're stupid and easily manipulated. If anyone's been brainwashed. It's you.

For Example: The Anecdotal evidence part was not me meeting half way with your theory of 'assumed abuse'. But instead seeing how far you'd be willing to take an argument where you absolutely refuse to provide anything but "a gut feeling" for the base of your arguments.

You did half of the work for me, by admitting that your argument is based (Like EUGENICS, on psuedoscience and heresy).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

You can flail your hands about and shout nonsense about hyperliberalism or whatever 'til you're blue in the face. It's just another logical fallacy of yours. I can just as easily say that you've been brainwashed by conservatives via...hahaha..."anecdotal evidence" to see an inter-racial couple as something 100% different than any other couple. When you don't treat them on equal standing that's prejudice no matter who you start calling a liberal. If you can't see how your assumption is external force on them then you're retarded. The only thing internal about their relationship is that it exists in the first place!

And frankly it's not a coincidence that in discussing inter-racial relationships- a subject in which you are not well versed- that the first thing that comes into your mind is 'black men abusing white women'. Of course I'm going to seem "aggressive" when you're being challenged over and over with no suitable reply. I think unless you've got some cold hard facts about this, then you should probably step back and take a breather. This is done.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-24 11:44 ID:NUDi1QMi

>>28
Once again, your Hyperliberal indoctrination doesn't allow you to admit that interracial couples could have racial reasons for getting together.  You literally can't even see it, since you've taken the doctrine so completely into your mind.

All you have to do to recover your credibility here (which you lost completely for the abovementioned reason) is to admit that interracial couples could have racial reasons for choosing each other.  C'mon, that's not so hard, since it's true.  Just admit it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-24 16:43 ID:tWKYNis4

>>29

You're a fucking idiot, RedCream. Go back and cite where I precisely said "inter-racial couples could never have racial reasons for getting together". 

OH SHI-

It's not there! It's not fucking there! That's the most hilarious thing about all of this shit. You're doing what you always do and you're arguing past the point completely. All I'm saying is that a vast majority are NOT getting together for the reason you think BECAUSE by virtue of the fact that they're in a inter-racial relationship makes them less likely to percieve race as a factor in choosing a mate...that's just how it goes.

Listen kid, the only credibility issue here got spotlighted the moment you thought someone was taking your "anecdotal evidence" seriously. You've been living in FailCity for the last 8 or 9 posts, your inability to see this is your omission of immense fail. Enjoy, fag.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-24 18:01 ID:UiKq3X4W

>>30
OK.  Then I'm not wrong in the first place, and it remains mysterious why you say anything against what I said ... except for that Hyperliberalist indoctrination I spoke of before.

Anyway, you've faced the fact that interracial couples could have racial problems, and it's hardly a tiny minority of them.  Having accepted this truth, we can move on.  (But you can't, really, since Hyperliberalism demands that any noting of racial differences must be demonized and hounded out of public discourse.)

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-27 12:53 ID:ib2igydw

>>31

"Hyperliberalist indoctrination" sounds like something you overheard on Crossfire. It's possible in my case, but I seriously doubt any such indoctrination has gone on. Reason being is that I simply believe (and have repeatedly stated) that: Discussion of race, more specifically, inter-racial relationships should not always entail a discussion of "racial differences" existent or fabricated. Just because we're talking about a black person and a white person doesn't automatically mean we need to discuss "black vs white" person. Which is ironically enough, what you've accused me of. 

Doing so, constantly is how we (and by "we", I mean "you") end up keeping such convenient and objectively unprovable bigotries such as "Everybody knows Black dudes beat their white girlfriends...because they're white".

If thinking that's going too fucking far and is too much of a knee-jerk reaction in a debate where you've already admitted to knowing very little about the subject matter- makes me a Hyperliberalist. Then you are most certainly a Neo-conservative white supremacist. So, how big is that "IF", now?

Name: RedCream 2007-08-27 14:23 ID:lePo+hjx

>>32
As long as you have admitted that interracial couples can be together for racial reasons, then my point is made.  The rest of the matter is just you danging on the end of a Spartan spear like some effete Persian, loudly complaining about how your culture is superior, blah blah blah.  The Persian-esque Hyperliberals can't admit they are embroiled in a particularly insular (and in fact, CRIPPLING) philosophy.

There's a vast difference between being socially Liberal (i.e. like me) and being a stupid fucking Hyperliberal (i.e. like you).  Hyperliberals are so drunk on the power of social Liberalism that they have long confused reasoned debate with government force.  Starry-eyed by the idea of a socially-Liberal utopia, they simply become so jaw-droppingly stupid that they actually believe that such a utopia is possible to have.  The end produce is stupid fucking shit like "hate crimes" and "gun bans".

gb2europe

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-28 1:33 ID:YeYq/fQk

>>33

You're still talking past me and seems that you're doing so as to not confront my point. Respond to the underlined or it's an omission of failure. I've broken it down into bite size piece for you this time, so try to stay on topic. I'll keep bumping and returning to this thread as long as you continue to dodge all the hide behind this hyperliberalism shit so that you don't have to own up to the retarded statements you've made.

1. Reason being is that I simply believe (and have repeatedly stated) that: Discussion of race, more specifically, inter-racial relationships should not always entail a discussion of "racial differences" existent or fabricated. <=== In this case objectively unprovable on your part and FABRICATED.

2. Just because we're talking about a black person and a white person doesn't automatically mean we need to discuss "black vs white" person. Which is ironically enough, what you've accused me of.

3. Doing so, constantly is how we (and by "we", I mean "you") end up keeping such convenient and objectively unprovable bigotries such as "Everybody knows Black dudes beat their white girlfriends...because they're white". <=== How is this not prejudice?

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-28 1:56 ID:90hB/IUF

>>33
>>X
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bla bla bla-chan may be a hyper-liberal but at least after lengthy criticism it eventually drops it's prejudices and semantic quibbles and starts to make sense, you never make sense from beginning to end and never shut the fuck up. Even if no one talks to you, you talk to yourself about homosexuality and jews which I have seen clearly on other threads.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-28 5:13 ID:YeYq/fQk

It's obvious when you read >>2, >>5, >>15, >>21 and >>33 that RedCream has some race issues or is possessed by issues of race. He covers it up by railing against "Hyperliberal Utopia" but when you isolate his supporting statements, his real beliefs are put on display.

>>2
"Hence, we end up with the Black yearning for Whiteflesh, driven either by true sexual desire or the more perverse desire to punish."

-He thinks that Blacks "yearn" for Whites to dole out "Punishment". He considers sexual desire in the case of a black man wanting a white women to be "special" or different from any other sexual desire.

>>5
"No, I was just noting that Black+White unions tend to have larger social problems associated with them."

-But why? And why hasn't he provided proof for this statement? RedCream aimlessly gropes for an answer in the next post.

>>15
"When the Black man thinks of his White GF as a trophy, that comes from within him.  Then the White woman thinks that her Black BF will piss off her father, that comes from within her."

---This makes no sense. The white girlfriend is considered a trophy because of external racially-motivated factor placing white females above other races. A black boyfriend only pisses off a father who doesn't like blacks. Why wouldn't a father want his daughter to date a black man? RedCream once again provides the answer.


>>21
"Consequently, you demonize all such conversations and simply can't hear of the possibility that some Black fellow is abusing his White girlfriend.

---He states this without one iota of evidence. When someone suggests that his evidence is anecdotal, he falls for the trap and admits that as the source for his information. Anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy in any debate, not just one about race.


>>33
"The rest of the matter is just you danging on the end of a Spartan spear like some effete Persian, loudly complaining about how your culture is superior, blah blah blah."

----And in the end he resorts to something that sounds like it's right out of the mouth from someone on stormfront.

RedCream's stance is basically that because someone pointed all this out, that makes them Hyperliberal and lusting after some socialist utopia. Meanwhile, the opposition only stated a truism that the reason there are inter-racial relationships is because these people don't consider race to be a factor. White, black, asian, latino, it doesn't make a difference.

It never dawns on them that: "Blacks beat their white girlfriends because their white." - The only people who take such 'anecdotal evidence' to heart are ignorant bigots...or just plain old retards. As far as abuse goes: A man who beats a women will beat a women of any race no matter what race that man is.

RedCream destroyed himself in this thread.



Name: Anonymous 2007-08-28 10:14 ID:9uNdPQr0

>>36
No one gives a shit about RedCream, if this were anonymous you would be making an interesting point since you would have rationalised those "hunches" we have about people based on those little cliches they use we've seen somewhere before and whatnot. Though in this instance you have merely pointed out the already well known fact that RedCream is batshit insane.

Of note: RedCream stated he enjoys sucking black cocks in quite a graphic manner in /lounge/. I hope this helps shed light on the rich psychological tapestry that makes up this man's fucked up mind.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-28 12:44 ID:z4sxoD62

>>34
I'm not here to respond to your narrow, Hyperliberal view.  My point was that interracial couples tend to have racial problems and that Hyperliberalism stops people from even considering that's the case.  The Hyperliberals insist that any problem within such couples is the fault of "the rest of us" ... which is as exactly FUCKED-UP-WRONG as the Hyperconservatives thinking gay marriages somehow affect their own, heterosexual marriages.

You already admitted that interracial couples could have racial reasons for their relationship.  Past that point, it's just a matter of opinion and anecdotes about HOW MANY of those couples have such problems.

In case you weren't keeping track, I just PWNED you again.  At least have the grace to bow out with dignity.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-28 12:49 ID:fnPvx2jS

>>37 wow u r dumd lemme add u in myspaes

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-28 13:27 ID:fnPvx2jS

let me just say, as a person who's watched this go on for some time, there's an equal amount of validity in both arguements. However, I think Redcream is trying to say while your point is valid, it doesn't mean that your reason are the only ones. I myself am in an interracial relationship, and while I have my reasons, it is undeniable that other people have put themselves in the same situation as me for much different reasons, several of which redcream had mentioned. He's not being racist, he's a realist.

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