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FUCK NON-AMERICA LAND.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 11:38 ID:/k49tG2R

ALL YOU FAGGOTS CRITICIZE US, BUT YOU ONLY HAVE THAT RIGHT BECAUSE WE GIVE IT TO YOU. MOST OF THE FOREIGN COUNTRIES ARE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FOR US TO NUKE THEM WITHOUT POLLUTING OUR AREA, AND WE HAVE STEALTH BOMBERS TO DO IT WITH.

NEXT TIME YOU TALK ABOUT AMERICA, DON'T CRITICIZE US. THANK US FOR OUR MERCY.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 11:40 ID:ulEetpGU

>>1
uhu, and other countries don't have nukes?

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 11:50 ID:/k49tG2R

>>2

not as many as we do. we're better armed and have a more advanced military than anyone else.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 11:58 ID:s1n2KjZW

>>1
Uh-huh. Right on.

*continues converting last reserves of us$ to euros*

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 12:14 ID:A+UPuie9

>>3
it only takes one nuke to kill and destroy half of america, and advanced military my ass, you can't even kill a grandpa with a turban.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 13:20 ID:FaAdmHB2

>>2
Enjoy your nuclear winter.
>>4
Enjoy your recession.
>>5
Enjoy your airstrikes.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 13:21 ID:tU9SocD/

>>5
No, nukes do not have that much power.  Nowhere near that in fact.  Also, we can kill them.  In fact, we have killed many of them.  They just will not give up.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-19 13:58 ID:FHythR3I

>>1
Ooooh, scary.  You can barely hold on to the Green Zone in Baghdad.  STFU&GTFO.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 14:59 ID:M+Y6lMPr

>>7
nukes are 10 times stronger or 100 times stronger (don't really know exact number but who cares) then Hiroshima, plus the desease it spreads when the wind is right it could take out a lot. not really half of america i know but still they would be they would be pwned to say the least.
anyways fuck america and their propaganda to wich >>1 was subjected too.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 15:03 ID:M+Y6lMPr

>>9
btw forget the spelling and grammar.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 15:31 ID:Heaven

>>10
gb2/school

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 15:39 ID:0o0Ezi+a

>>8

You fail for being an idiot. We aren't fighting in Baghdad to destroy... we are being defensive. If we were there to level the place, the war would've been over years ago.

You fag-get!

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 15:40 ID:XlszTkfS

>>11
at least i can speak 3 languages bitch

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 16:34 ID:0o0Ezi+a

>>13

Can't get your point across with just one? Sucks to be you.
People learn my language or else they aren't important enough to talk to me.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 16:37 ID:v1VMycCl

>>14
Not important enough to talk to a basement-dwelling moron? Wow, that's pretty bad.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-19 17:01 ID:DYxCrxI/

>>12
FAIL.  Your Beloved Leader Bush is there to conduct the War on Terror.  That involves killing terrorists and destroying their infrastructure.  How's that goin' for ya in Iraq?  Oh yeah, as soon as you peek your Imperialist eyes outside the Green Zone you get your fucking balls shot off.  PWNED!

At any rate, a nation isn't conquered or ruled from a tiny zone in the capital.  Try again, you propaganda-soaked MORON!

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 17:50 ID:0KHqiWOL

Awesome: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7504608/

MR. FILKINS:  Yeah.  There's actually a company in Baghdad that does nothing except offer rides to the airport and back.  They've got an armored cars and some guards.  And they charge $35,000 for...

MR. RUSSERT:  Thirty-five thousand dollars?

MR. FILKINS:  ...for a ride to the airport.  And I think you know, if you miss your plane and you have to come back, it's another $35,000.  But...

MR. RUSSERT:  How long--is it six miles?

MR. FILKINS:  I think it's about six miles, yeah.  It's not a happy six miles. So, you know, they earn their money.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 18:34 ID:FaAdmHB2

The surge is working!

Name: RedCream 2007-08-19 20:19 ID:xBdEfRXi

It appears that the Americans also aren't engaging the War on Terror for the 6 miles to the Baghdad airport.  Of course, that really won't matter since the Saigon-esque helicopters won't need the airport to airlift the last tail-tucked Americans out of Baghdad.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 20:46 ID:0o0Ezi+a

The war on terror isn't a traditional war you queer; it's not a war where you know exactly who your enemy is. Your enemy doesn't dress up in a uniform and they hide behind babies to boot. The success of the war depends on creating a stable government that is open to being apart of the world economy(Japan being a great example). The war on terror is an active defense strategy you ignorant tit.

The Americans do not get their balls shot off when they come out the Green Zone you moron. The death rate of extremists is a much higher percentage than Americans, and this is considering the fact that these stupid sand niggers hide behind babies and dress up as civilians.

How about you help make the world a better place instead of supporting people responsible for most of the world's terrorism? If you love those freedom fighters so much, why don't you strap a bomb to yourself and blow up a bunch of children on their way to school, or perhaps a graduating class of police men to help them out?

People like you are why World War I and II happened. You can't talk everything over and you can't just ignore the world's problems. If the United States did nothing about this problem, it would get bitched at just the same as if it did.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-19 21:22 ID:/F+jY/ft

we can still win the war on terror if we just give it some time

Name: RedCream 2007-08-19 21:33 ID:xBdEfRXi

>>20
Wars are always the same.  One or two Imperial assholes try to murder everyone in their path to whatever glory they imagine is waiting for them.  In this case, the assholes in question are the West and the militant Islamists.  The world would be a lot better off if they were all deported to Central Australia with brickbats so they could work off their frustrations without demanding the rest of us suffer the side effects of their militancy.

There is no such thing as an "active defense strategy", you ignorant tit.  Attacking people 12000 miles away from your territory is merely Imperialism.  It appears that the military history of the last 200 years is missing from your bookshelf.

American casualties have risen above 20000, with about 3000 dead.  If that's not getting your balls shot off, then I don't know what it is.  And as for the kill ratio, you'd think your Imperial Legions would have won by now.  But they haven't.  You didn't win Vietnam or Korea either.  Hmm.  I smell a trend.

Opposing the war is not supporting terrorism.  Your Fascists in the White House and the Congress constantly tell us that it is, but the falsehood of it is blatant.  If there's anyone here supporting terrorism and increasing the violence of the planet, it's the UNITED STATES.  The USA maintains things like carrier groups not for defense at all -- no, they are used to attack other nations with impunity.  That makes America the leading rogue nation on Earth, and the US military the leading terrorist group.  You were just crowing obscenely about the body count.  Irony.

People like the warhawks are why WWI and WWII happened.  The warhawks contrived so-called defense pacts; real pacifists would have heeded the warnings of the Founders to avoid foreign entanglements. 

The War on Terror is just the excuse to attack Iraq (then Iran) to assume control of oil fields.  Cheney's closed energy meeting in 2001 was forced to reveal a map of Iraq as part of the proceedings.  The PNAC behind Bush, Cheney and the rest of the Neo-Cons has not hidden its agenda of using the US military to simply conquer the oil-bearing nations of the Middle East.  Various exposees have revealed that attacking Iraq was always on the Republican agenda when they attained the Presidency.  So, whose leg are you really trying to pull, here?

Go back to your Young Republicans meeting for a few more talking points that I can't destroy inside of 5 minutes.  And while you're there, try looking under a few tables for Iraq's so-called WMDs.  Remember those?  Yeh, the American people have forgotten about them too, just like Osama bin Laden and all the rest of the lies and excuses.

P.S.  Since YOU admire this war so much, enlist.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 7:50 ID:Heaven

>Wars are always the same.
sweeping overgeneralization is sweeping

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 17:58 ID:aCftVmP6

Sorry RedDoucheCream... Wars are not always the same. The world is much different than it was historically... this isn't an imperialistic conquest. Iraq does not become another state.

The reason you are wrong is because you cannot see things beyond the simplistic fashion in which you see them. This is why unintelligent people like yourself have to rely on stupid sweeping generalizations. All birds are birds aren't they?

There is no "winning" this war you moron. We aren't there to take it over.. the proof is in that it hasn't been done already. Another proof is that a lot of money has been spent on rehabilitation instead of destruction. Destruction is always cheaper than rehabilitation, and the pure cost of this war is proof enough.

Warhawks aren't why WWI and WWII happened you idiot. These wars happened because of appeasers and pussies that did not want to do anything about rising threats. If "warhawks" stomped out the threat before it grew, there would be no massive war you dumb shit.

Opposing the war is not supporting terrorism, you are correct, but it would seem like you would want to join the terrosits seeing as you see eye to eye on how evil the west is. The attack is more personal and not a general sweeping statement, something you don't know much about evidently.

Americans are trying to make things right by attacking people that want to not only kill us, but kill faggots like you. The only reason why America is in there in the first place is because none of the other faggots want to do anything about it.

Americans have to have a strong military and show it off or else faggots like you would try to kick us down. This mechanic is evident throughout all history... flexing muscle and keeping a strong military is essential for being on top. If you don't like being on top of things, aggressive, and the number one country/person, then you and/or your country will always be at the bottom. Pacifists get walked on... the world isn't a friendly place... Get your head out of your ass.

Congratulations for being a paste-eating-mouth-breathing-push-over.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 18:09 ID:nms8oDzw

Damn straight.
Well said.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 20:07 ID:6Dzn06X9

bump for lulz

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 20:25 ID:CA81NK29

America! Fuck Yeah! Freedom is the only way yeah! Terrorists your game is through because now you have to answer to... France...

:|

Name: LordRiordan 2007-08-20 21:50 ID:aCftVmP6

Why wouldn't you want freedom?

Name: RedCream 2007-08-20 22:30 ID:9uV8mGmV

>>24
Wars are always the same since the soldiers are there to hurt people and break things.  The natives are always told different since there's a propaganda component.  The only difference is that nowadays the propaganda is more focused towards the attacking nation to make their own people feel good about raping another nation.  THAT is because the nation's populace is better educated and requires more propaganda in order to overcome the larger view of the matter that education naturally tends to provide.

This is indeed an Imperialist conquest of Iraq since it's being seized of its oil.  The old Imperialism required a rather strong invader presence as national managers.  However, globalism has allowed Imperialism to effectively be outsourced.  You don't need to rule a nation so pervasively anymore, to steal the 1 or 2 resources that you're there to take.  That's why the US is trying to stay in Baghdad.  However, regardless of how efficient that is, that's inevitably fatal since the outlier forces have plenty of room to maneuver and will eventually enclose and move in on the Green Zone.  Hence:  Saigon.  You fuckers remember Saigon, don't you?  The US ran like a little bitch with its tail between its legs.  So it does appear that those colors DO run.

Again, WWI and WWII were ESCALATED by warhawks on both "sides".  The West likes to pawn off the "appeaser" myth, but traveling to Europe to defend yourself is the height of hypocrisy.  Both wars were European entanglements that the USA should have stayed 100% out of.  Of course, by arming one side over another, a side was taken, and then a process of drawing in occurred.  Mutual defense pacts (which can only be written by warhawks) ensured this entanglement.

You're probably one of retards who thinks Hitler would have conquered the world if he wasn't stopped.  Hah!  He couldn't even manage his own military, and he certainly didn't have full control of France.  And Russia?  Please.

All conquerors overreach and tend to be inherently unable to rule what they've conquered.  Literally, Europe would have sorted itself out eventually.  After all, it was across the Atlantic.  Why cross an entire ocean to defend yourself?  You defend yourself on your OWN soil, in your OWN waters, and in your OWN airspace.  This is just a simple fact of self defense that escapes the attention of empires -- of which, the USA is one.  Empires think the entire world is their territory.

I like how you admit "[o]pposing the war is not supporting terrorism", but you just can't stay in your seat with that, can you?  Your marching orders over rightwingnut talk radio tells you that you can't EVER accept that people have intrinsic freedom in this false Republic of ours.  So you lean on the "evil like them" issue.  Bitch, the only pervasive evil being committed here is by American troops.  The US Murder Machine has caused a lot more death and property damage than any other terrorist group.  But you're incapable of seeing yourself as the bad guy.  So you demonize the dissenters.  Sad.

As for killing faggots like me, I can take care of myself.  Specifically, I do NOT authorize you to fight any battles in my name.  I have a lot higher reputation than to let slavering killers murder people across the world and associate their terrorist activities with my good name.

And semi-finally, this obsession you have with being "on top" is the clear admission of being the World's Biggest Asshole.  Such militarism frankly deserves terrorist attacks.  Anybody in the world who wants to be free, probably deserves to attack you.  After all, that's your own clear doctrine; you imagine some guys living in caves will destroy your civilization, and so you bomb the shit out of them.  At least, the free peoples of the world have ample evidence of continuous Western interference in their nations to justify defending themselves against you.

Once again, the United States is the world's leading rogue nation, and the US military is 1 of the 2 top terrorist groups in the world (the other one being Russia's remnant military).

All this has been well enough determined from the lies said over the last 6 years.  Some assholes attacked Jew York and largely killed some yuppies and knocked some buildings over so that a very wealthy Jew could collect billions in an insurance claim.  That's about it.  In response, 14000 troops were sent to fuck around in Afghanistan, to little practical effect except that the Unocal oil pipeline proposal there was suddenly approved again, and then over TEN TIMES that number were sent to Iraq where Osama bin Laden had never stepped foot and where Al Qaeda was not welcome (among other religious extremists, since Hussein was secular).  It's the world's biggest "bait and switch".  Terrorism is NOT being fought; in fact, given that Iraq has been transformed into a big terrorist training camp, terrorism is being PROMOTED.  The world is now a lot more dangerous under Bush and the Neo-Cons and the compliant Neo-Liberals in the Congress.  Another terrorist attack on America is a double certainty ... and we frankly deserve it.  We attacked the Middle East.  WE'RE THE BAD GUYS.  We're the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century.

P.S.  Have you enlisted yet?  Have you put your own balls on the lethal line that you so easily draw?  Or are you just another member of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists while the rural and the poor get blown to shit for Exxon?

Name: LordRiordan 2007-08-20 23:24 ID:aCftVmP6

>>Wars are always the same since the soldiers are there to hurt >>people and break things.

There are different reasons for going to war and thus different types of wars as they are fought differently. War is so incredibly complex and can be for so many reasons that simply saying "to hurt and break things" is very simplistic and over generalizing. For example: The war in iraq is for (1) preemptive measures (protecting the home land) (2) protecting foreign interests  (3) profit (4) geographical positioning for putting pressure on Iran
If Iraq wasn't such a shit hole and breaking serious UN resolutions, and taunting everyone (Their own fucking generals thought they had WMDs), and being a player on the world field, then there would be no war to speak of.

I don't really feel like you are worth responding to... nothing the USA can do is good, short of disarming and disbanding, and there is nothing that can convince you otherwise. I feel bad for  you that you have to hate your country and pretty much yourself (you are American too.. :p)

Your little faggot theories about being pacifist pushovers doesn't really matter when guns are drawn. It's good that two intellectual individuals can talk out matters, but that isn't going to be the case 100% of the time.

If someone threatens you, you break their arms.
If someone hits you, you hit them back ten times harder.
If someone kills your family member, you kill them and their cronies.

You really have your head up your ass sir. Try getting into a fight. In the real world, physical force is above talking. If it weren't for people like me, you would be a lampshade.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-20 23:53 ID:Ym8BGJCB

*To the original poster*

I'm not going to touch this bombshell of a debate (pun intended), but it has to be said: Using all-caps letters isn't going to help your argument.

Name: RedCream 2007-08-20 23:57 ID:9uV8mGmV

You've got Rush Limbaugh's talking points down pat, I'll grant you that.

There are no pre-emptive measures going on in Iraq since it was never a threat to the United States.  After Powell was proven to be a filthy little liar, that little falsehood took a powder.  Sure, the rightwingnut talkradions still think it is, but there's simply no proof and any rational man sees that.

Real patriots would stop fighting for "foreign interests".  Why not just say "for the Jews in Israel" and be honest about it for once?

And:  War for profit?  You DO know that makes you a fucking scumbag, right?  The rest of the world has every justification therefore for blowing up any American warship they see in their harbors.

As for what really caused the war, it wasn't taunting, UN resolutions (which are conveniently ignored when Israel is the centerpiece of one) or any of that other crap.  The war was caused by rightwingnuts in the USA who long planned on stealing Iraq's oil.  All the lead-ups were just lies.  There was no serious attempt on the US side to seek peace, since the US was the one wanting war.  Duh-fucking-duh.

Is the USA wants to do good, then it should stop bombing people.  You don't have to disarm; all you have to do is perform REAL defense.  But we're the stupid fucks who put National Guard in airports without cartridges in their rifles.  Now, there's a representative example of the American attempts to enforce borders and travel.

Don't feel bad for me, dipwad.  You're the Imperialist asshole who apparently wants to risk the rise of even larger Imperial forces within the US in order to secure itself against the false threat in the first place.  And we won't even be secure, which is the funny thing.  All that Fascist power will be used to assault native individuals in order to arrange further political control.

Again, if I'm under threat, I'm armed and will take care of myself.  That's called "self defense".  You might want to check it out in some dictionary.  Note well it doesn't involve attacking other nations that had nothing to do with 911.

And in conclusion, I've been in fights, and I further fight the good fight ... here, in America.  While others yawn and avoid getting involved, I chase robbers and burglars -- and catch 'em!  When's the last time you ever did anything like that?  "People like you", MY ASS.  My non-lampshaded state is wholly my responsibility and entirely due to my self defensiveness.  Any towelhead that tries some shit near me in my nation is not going to live long enough to regret it.  (Of course, being anti-war, you don't believe any of that and you'll just spew more faggot-faggot-faggot to assure yourself that it's not possible to believe in self defense, yet NOT WAR.)

Name: LordRiordan 2007-08-21 0:11 ID:VLncyVxA

I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh =/

I'll get back to you on why I'm right later though.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 6:21 ID:4f931uXQ

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 6:29 ID:4f931uXQ

BTW, if you're too lazy to open the link:

-The US government is on a ‘burning platform’ of unsustainable policies and practices with fiscal deficits, chronic healthcare underfunding, immigration and overseas military commitments threatening a crisis if action is not taken soon, the country’s top government inspector has warned.-

-Drawing parallels with the end of the Roman empire, Mr Walker warned there were “striking similarities” between America’s current situation and the factors that brought down Rome, including “declining moral values and political civility at home, an over-confident and over-extended military in foreign lands and fiscal irresponsibility by the central government”.-

-“With the looming retirement of baby boomers, spiralling healthcare costs, plummeting savings rates and increasing reliance on foreign lenders, we face unprecedented fiscal risks,” said Mr Walker, a former senior executive at PwC auditing firm.-

We don't critize, most of us pity you, poor guys

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 7:05 ID:7KeXXZ7n

>>35
I felt pity for the Amerikkka 3 years ago. Then they repeated their mistake. Now I'm emo.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 10:40 ID:2KmUs5bb

America are just UK immigrants.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 11:58 ID:4f931uXQ

>>36
I still feel pity for usa people

some of them really don't deserve this huge crisis and are good folks
and there is that people who elected a dude who could put usa economy at the 1929 level, if not worse.

I feel pity for that guys too, because they must take responsability in who they voted
Thats democracy, you know

Name: RedCream 2007-08-21 12:14 ID:iMP81fx2

There are over 4200 bridges and tunnels in the USA with the same or lower rating as the I35 bridge which collapsed recently in Minnesota.  It ought to cost about $65 billion to bring all those 4200 up to par.  That's, what, 8 months of Iraq war cost?  But ... ah, PRIORITIES.  There are no Arab- or Persian-owned oil fields underneath any of those tunnels and bridges ... so, fuck the travelers.

America is fucked.  I welcome it.  Stupid people SHOULD suffer.

Name: Anonymous 2007-08-21 12:18 ID:4f931uXQ

>>39
think about them like poor little puppies
don't you feel sorry for them? their only mistake was born in the wrong country

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