>>58
You're backwards, obtuse and your arguments repeatedly fail precisely because you lack that magic word:
"perspective". I'm sure alot of things seem relevant at first glance, but upon closer inspection we find that the earth is not flat, that God probably isn't as powerful (or real) as we think and that our very existence is seemingly a random and freak occurence- not providence.
The solidarity of your view becomes moot automatically because there are billions of other retards vying (out of fear) for the same validity and supremacy. The fact that you compare your sad (and frankly: outdated) world view to religion and then ultimately to the more important works of the mind that all of mankind lay claim to speaks volumes about your sickness and your desperation to protect that which you believe makes you strong. You haven't gleaned anything close to enlightenment. You're just scared and that fear is more psychologically gratifiying to you than perspective and truth.
You say that to not believe in a group makes you "egotistical", yet all I said was that the group *you* identitify with is what is flawed. Isn't it a bit self-centered to believe that because I'm attacking your flawed group-think that I'm attacking all group-think? What is altruistic about racism? What is altruistic about pride in only your sub-group?
Race, which is essentially a very extended family, is a source of thousands of years of history and culture, and seems as valid as anything as a group for someone to belong to. ... Race does exist, just as humanity exists. For someone to self-identify as "white" or "black" there's a distinct group to belong to. If he only says "human" then that's such an inclusive group as to be a meaningless statement.
And we're right back where every thread ends up. Your lack of objective proof. Your inability to describe race as nothing more than a social sub-classification crafted before empirical fact. Given that "the human race" has more of a concrete objective standing than race, you'll exuse me if I take humanity more seriously than some cultures that feign actual difference.
How should Jews feel towards Nazis, then? I'm not talking about your silly black-white civil rights/slavery squabbles. I'm saying that one person is a member of a cultural/religious group (that has many of the same traits as a race) and that the other is a member of a political party that has the stated purpose of exterminating the former. Should that Jew said to have a "psychological defect" if he isn't unbiased?
Perspective at work: Blacks don't consider the matter of 400 years of slavery to be "silly". You don't consider the attack on the "white identity" to be "silly". The Germans didn't take the percieved undermining of their society by "The Scary Jew" to be "silly". What makes your pain or the Jews suffering any 'better' than anybody elses? We learned after the crusades, after the islamic and japanese empires, after the moors that not even God gives you a license to hate or kill...so where are you pulling your righteousness from,
>>58?
This isn't a difference of opinion. When you don't use perspective, this becomes a matter of right and wrong.