I was almost raped in a bar last year. I had a couple drinks, then a guy came up to me and we started talking. Later, he asked "Do you want to have sex?" and I said "yes". We went back to his place, got naked, I sucked him off, and just as he was about to place his penis in my vagina, I screamed "OMIGOD YOU SICK FUCK!" and called the cops. He's currently serving a 10 year prison sentence.
If a drunk guy kills someone while drunk, we hold him accountable for his actions. If a woman screws up her life by getting drunk and then having sex she didn't really want, it is the fault of the man she did it with and not her own?
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Anonymous2007-08-01 5:26 ID:o/oh64Tv
Almost raped? How is it rape when you agreed to have sex with him?
That makes no sense at all You agreed to have sex with him. Why should he be in prison because you backed out of it and called it a rape?
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Thelema2007-08-01 7:46 ID:4byNjcXt
>>6
You're an idiot, I didn't post that, it was some nerdy troll.
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Thelema2007-08-01 9:02 ID:5n2DEdwS
>>6
Also I'm a man, I just look like a woman because of what I wear and how I act.
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Thelema2007-08-01 9:41 ID:jDR46qKG
I could really use a big stiff cock up my ass right about now
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Thelema2007-08-01 18:16 ID:WsrcdeAz
Why do I have such a retarded name? Is it because I consent to sex while drunk and then regret it after I wake up with a condom in my ass?
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Anonymous2007-08-01 22:15 ID:RK/cs8YT
>>6
She changed her mind at the last minute, so at that moment she didn't consent to sex. Women pull this shit all the time when they either sober up or find out that the guy wasn't as rich as she thought (which is kind of ironic, seeing as how people meet at bars just for hookups, so it shouldn't really matter how wealthy he is).
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Anonymous2007-08-01 22:38 ID:SQYXavqo
>>11
So she says yes to sex, then claims that right before his dick went into her, she changed her mind, and he was thus a rapist? What horse shit. How could you even proove that the guy was a rapist in the first place and that the sex wasn't consensual?
>>10
Uneducated troll is uneducated.
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I'm not OP but I am the *real* Thel, what's more, I'm not a feminist and I find the OP disgusting to come up with such garbage.
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Anonymous2007-08-02 18:53 ID:TODO7ADf
What the hell...
Why is everybody taking this seriously?
It's obviously a joke attacking feminist views on what constitutes as rape.
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Anonymous2007-08-02 21:00 ID:xGI/Gcu4
>>16
It's still a more interesting topic than most of what else we have here (which is mostly some 15 year old's anarcho-capitalist ramblings).
It brings up a lot of issues that we see in other places: feminist campaigns against normal sexuality, the degeneration of the burden of proof in the modern era, basic human sexual dynamics, etc. Since nobody expects an intelligent discussion on any of these topics, we might as well just have a funny post about it.
"Is it because I consent to sex while drunk and then regret it after I wake up with a condom in my ass?"
And another foaming-at-the-mouth feminist is born. If a man has sex while drunk, and he decides later it was a bad idea, that's his fault. Why would it be any different for a woman?
A girl I knew from high school was apparently raped not too long ago. She won't report it so all I can say to her is nihil curo.
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Anonymous2007-08-03 13:47 ID:4WGbYK9U
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I raped a girl in college once, and she didn't report it either. Got lots of drama, but it goes to show that the consequences aren't usually that bad.
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2007-08-03 18:30 ID:9NW0u6Md
>>21 is a feminist trying to perpetuate negative male stereotypes to try and justify their pitiful, unwarranted prejudice. I hope you get raped violently by a nigger with a foot-long phallus, you stupid dyke.
#24, you fail. Murder is not consensual. Sex even while drunk IS consensual. Having "regret" the next day is NOT evidence of rape; it just means you made a poor decision and should avoid making the same mistake next time.
(#26, you'll have to ignore the RedCream clones for now. They often try to ride to glory on my coattails. And who can really blame them? Glory surrounds me like a nimbus of pure white light, radiating freely to the sonorous voices of angels of wisdom.)
At any rate, what's to prove? There are only 2 witnesses, and it becomes a matter of "he said, she said" since neither witness is unbiased to the accusation. What's factual is that 2 people got together consensually. After that, nobody can PROVE what happened. Since people lie and regret so easily, it remains for us to only pay attention to the physical evidence, which is largely just evidence of consensual sex. (Note: Sperm in a vagina is not evidence of rape, since (using the REASONABLE DOUBT principle) consensual sex could have put it there easily. Bruises, cuts (incl. vaginal tearing), screams and the like ARE evidence.)
The point that must also be made is that when YOU get drunk, you're responsible for yourself regardless of what you do. Sure, the alleged rapist is responsible for the rape if it actually happened, but unless evidence (i.e. NOT 'OPINION' OR 'FEELINGS') proves the rape, then it falls upon the alleged victim of the rape. Since (assumably) she got drunk before she made a decision to have sex, she's responsible for the largely unprovable circumstances of a rape if it occurs.
Remember, our courts are supposed to run on several principles; 1, that it's better to let the guilty run free than to imprison one innocent; 2, that evidence trumps opinion; and 3, the facts of the case are judged under reasonable doubts. Under all 3 principles, if some woman wakes up the next morning all sticky and confused, barring evidence to the contrary, then no rape occurred to any legal consequence thereof. Women should be very careful about who they sleep with (and as John Bobbitt knows, so should MEN).
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Anonymous2007-08-04 4:24 ID:iYNveHLy
"Bruises, cuts (incl. vaginal tearing), screams and the like ARE evidence.)"
If they are, they shouldn't be. Some like rough sex. Under the criteria of evidence you just layed out, there are certainly going to be some innocent people wrongly imprisoned, and as you say later in the post:
"Remember, our courts are supposed to run on several principles; 1, that it's better to let the guilty run free than to imprison one innocent;"