Greed is good.

It motivates people.

The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that: Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right; greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms, greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge — has marked the upward surge of mankind and greed, you mark my words — will not only save Teldar Paper but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.

BULLSHIT!  Greed is bad.  You don't need greed to motivate you.  Greed only motivates the sociopaths.  Sociopaths destroy various threads in the social fabric of society, and once enough of them are there, busily chewin' away, the fabric rips asunder.

Running a business and taking a modest profit (which is then sensibly re-invested) is the way to go.

Saigon... shit; I'm still only in Saigon... Every time I think I'm gonna wake up back in the jungle. When I was home after my first tour, it was worse. I'd wake up and there'd be nothing. I hardly said a word to my wife, until I said "yes" to a divorce. When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the jungle. I'm here a week now... waiting for a mission... getting softer; every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute Charlie squats in the bush, he gets stronger. Each time I looked around, the walls moved in a little tighter.

Somebody once wrote: "Hell is the impossibility of reason." That's what this place feels like. Hell.

What did Maj. Willard do when Vietnam was over?  (Remember, he must have made Major for killing Kurtz.)  Nobody talks about what happened to Willard.  There was no more Charlie for him to kill.  Did he become a Sterno bum in America?  Did he end up wandering, muttering about the Charlie that he wasn't authorized to kill any longer?

greed screws the lower class.

>>7
lower class people are greedy

I think it's both pathetic and despicable that some people attempt to claim that greed is a good thing.

Look in a dictionary first, it's only five second away. Desire != greed.

lower class people are lower class why? because they're poor

poor people make poor kids because they can't send their kids to college, instead they give them a pig and they 'love' that pig forever and ever

Long term greed is good for business.

>>11
Short time greed is good for shop lifting, which is bad for business.

Jews in this thread

>>13
The problem isn't that Jews are greedy, it's that whites aren't greedy enough. Remember when whites used to exterminate and enslave entire civilisations just for precious metals and cotton?

>>14
And this was a good thing? :o

>>15
Well whites don't have to go on an extermination spree to set things straight. They could be like an enlightenned monarch, only exerting enough power to ensure their position, not to extract as much wealth as physically possible. Maybe after everyone calms down we can go into space and stuff.

>>16
Look man, I'm as spooked by the foreign invasion that's destroying my society as the next guy (lol Canada and accepting any unskilled or diseased idiot who asks, and their entire families), but I see no reason why whites should be "enlightened monarchs" either. That smacks too much of Plato's philosopher kings for my tastes.

>>17
Why? It would only be temporary until civilisation is advanced enough to genetically modify each new generation so they are all smarter and healthier. At this point race won't be an issue. Until then the quickest way to reach this point is through stability and that can be assured through an "enlightenned monarch". If we have all 5 major races vying for supremacy like crazy fascists the world will turn into a furball of ignorant thugs who enjoy nothing more than believing in fallacies that doom humanity to stay on this mudball till the sun bellows into a red giant and boils the oceans.

>>18
Because I have little faith in humanity. Any group on the top won't be benevolent for long. I can hope otherwise, but I'll err on the side of history.

Of course, with all the new toys humanity is acquiring (nuclear, biological, and lord knows what'll come in the future) I think we'll need some global power centralisation eventually. I dislike it, but it's better than extinct. However, I'd rather it was based on merit instead of race.

I wish Canada would adopt the same with its immigration policies. We can't do much about the people already here, but we shouldn't be compounding the problem with undisirables nobody else wants.

Pussy is better.

>>19
Technology is advancing at an enormous rate, we could begin genetically modifying populations now by selecting embryos without cystic fibrosis etc.. All we need is a period of time to adjust the economy to renewable energy, see where the current technology sphere goes and for people to adjust to the new opportunities available. As for merit the white race is only rivalled by the top 1% of billions of asians and a miniscule number of jews neither of which have any problem with each other.

>>17
1.  You have insane misconceptions about immigration.  Canada is 85% white.  The US is 66% white.  Slavery and annexing half of Mexico were great ideas, mate.

2. Dislike Plato's idea of the philosopher king?  Don't vote Republican.  "Unitary executive" is just a synonym for "enlightened monarch."  Not like voting really matters - this ideology is going to win out, even if the Straussniks have to destroy a few million people in order to make it happen.  Look at how close your country is to dictatorship already, and all they had to do was tear down a few buildings in NYC.  When the next "surprise" happens, you're going all the way.


Like you said, dictatorship is better than extinction. 

>>22
You have insane misconceptions about immigration.
No, I don't. I see what it has done to our health system in the past five years. I went to Australia in 2002, came back in 2007, and I have a hard time believing my eyes just how bad it has become. Maybe Vancouver just attracts the worst, but the CBD has become an utter shithole, and finding a family doctor is hard.

Oh, talking about Australia: there was public housing right next to the university. At least 80% of the people living there were muslim; I've never seen so many burkas. These were the same groups who were also preaching about how evil Australia was, etc. What the fuck were they doing in Australia, other than leeching of Australia's generous social system?

Immigration is fine. Allowing immigration from the bottom of the barrel is idiotic. A few decades ago you had to undergo a rigorous health exam, have at least a degree, and be relatively fluent in English or French to enter Canada. Now anybody and their whole 3rd-world family can get it, pulling down the whole system. Australia has become insanely strict, but they're being invaded from the north anyway.

The US is 66% white
Yeah, and the US is no.1! No, wait, you country is increasingly full of shit and fail. Watching your news channels gives me the creeps, yet Americans eat it up. I hate going over there. Americans as a whole are nice people, but the society at large is just plain sick.

Besides, who gives a hoot about colour. You could be purple for all I care, as long as you're skilled, healthy, and pleasant to talk to. Otherwise go to another country and be a deadweight for them instead.

I wouldn't mind moving slightly north and becoming a Canadian citizen, #23.  However, I'm not in the Aqua Capitalist Hunger Labor Force, so I doubt my chances for getting in.

Remember, the First World is loving cheap labor so much that it's largely ignoring the price of illegal and otherwise uncontrolled immigration.  But I'm sure you knew that anyway, from your posting.

I think there's a big difference between Plato's ideal of a "philosopher king" and the kind of dictator the US seems fated to have.

The First World is more than just America, idiot. 

The US can ignore the price of illegal immigration largely because most Mexican immigrants do a lot of manual labor and then go back.  They don't sit around doing a whole lot of fail like North Africans or Arabs or Russians do in Europe.  Which is also why Korea and Japan and Singapore have strict immigration laws to weed out foreigners who want to mooch off their generous systems. 

And cheap labor isn't a function of immigration.  If the First World loved cheap labor so much, it wouldn't just let immigrants flood their doors.  They'd ignore labor laws in other countries and let Chinese factory bosses beat the shit out of their workers.

I wish you would move to Canada.  But I guess America hasn't fulfilled its asshole quotient yet, so you're still here.  Thanks...I think.

Yeh, #26, as if I didn't know what the fucking First World was.  Thanks for the pointless update ... you hoser.

The First World is dominated by three groups:  the UK, the USA, and then the "rest of Westernized Europe" (which we must note grows all the time).  Nations like Canada are just hanging on to the Western Model and they could disappear tomorrow in a puff of logic and the Western world would churn onward about the same way.  That tiny fucking island of inbred Whitebreads known as Britain is far more important to world commerce and culture than Canada is.  (Hey, I don't like it, but that's how your fucking wonderful world empires continue to arrange the world.)

To the first approximation, the "West" or "First World" is America, Britain, and Franco-Germany.  NOTICE WELL that all those nations suck deeply of the immigrant-labor dick.  They are absolutely in love with cheap immigrant labor; hence it only stands to reason that the FIRST WORLD is also in love with it.  Maybe the Canucks don't subscribe to it as heavily; so what?  They just don't rate, regardless of their oil exports.

Furthermore, in case you missed a few things with your head so firmly stuffed up your fuckass, the First World has done everything it could to stop its citizens from paying attention to the use of slave and near-slave labor overseas.  All the "attention" you imagine is there is just to make it look good.  Once the very rare presence of cameras goes away, it's back to the slavery beat.  That's the next best thing to ignoring the problem.

Remember, the West and the First World (the same thing, really) is a culture of heavy indoctrination and propaganda, primarily formed from schools, news media, rich fucks and of course legions of drones who WANT to be rich.  Control of the Western native isn't done with a gun; it's done with a television, and people laughing at the consumers who can't keep up.

Now it's time for you to grant me a favor ... when they finally open some form of Atlantis for underwater living, please go, and forget to turn on your oxygen tank.  Dolts like you serve better as fishfood than as debate opponents, certes!  kthkbye

Remember, the First World is loving cheap labor so much that it's largely ignoring the price of illegal and otherwise uncontrolled immigration.
I concur, but it's worth note that's increasingly been taking the form of off-shoring or importing manufactured goods from elsewhere.

The thing about Canada (and probably other Western nations), is that there's a wealth of unmotivated young people who foolishly didn't get an education. Suffice to say, other than Alberta, I don't think Canada has a shortage of local unskilled labour available.

What we need is more skilled labour. If you have a degree, please immigrate already. We don't have Bush, what more could you ask for?

>>24

you havn't noticed the radical right-turn since about around 2000 all over europe, have you? You do know that the possibility of immigration of cheap labour was one of the main reasons for the EU treaty not being ratified, and that there is a surge of right and left wing anti-immigration parties all over europe.
Alot of european countries has a minimum wage, this minimum wage has to be paid or the company will get fined, possibly shut down, depending on the severity. And depending on the level of the minimum wage, this makes the incentive of the employer to hire an immigrant lesser, depending on the availabilitiy of national workers of course. 

"First World has done everything it could to stop its citizens from paying attention to the use of slave and near-slave labor overseas."
do you know how hard it would be to regulate the work force of every company that has an affiliation or factory or something similar in another country? Recently there has been a greater focus on the conditions of the workers of western companies in third world countries, because recently there has become a whole lot more of these workers.

i don't know if you know, but exploitation of workers in slave-like conditions is GREAT news, and every time a case like that shoots up, a company gets fucked over by it. Shareholders and companies get worried by this, they don't want it to happen to them, so they set up controls and checks of their outsourced workers conditions. Some companies don't, and then they become the news.

I don't know if you've heard of ethical accounting. sure, it sounds bogus and you can just fiddle the numbers, but no matter WHAT kind of accounting you do, ethical, fiscal, ecological, it's bad news if someone finds out you've fiddled with the numbers, or if you supply lacking descriptions. This is completely self-imposed of course, but the more companies that do it, the more pressure there will be for other companies to do it.
Things like that show us that things are changing.



"Remember, the West and the First World (the same thing, really) is a culture of heavy indoctrination and propaganda, primarily formed from schools, news media, rich fucks and of course legions of drones who WANT to be rich. "

poor fucks have always wanted to become rich fucks, no matter where they are. Schools teach things, no matter what they do they'll be indoctrinating the kids. people read the news to know what's going on in the world, if the news are coloured then the reader  will of course also be affected. i don't think this is some special western problem? Or are you just listing ways of indoctrinating people and saying "WE HAVE THEM!" in order to make the west look bad? lol.

#28, I agree there's an excess of so-called "unskilled labor".  However, making these folks get degrees won't help anyone except the universities and banks.  We have too many degreed people standing figuratively in unemployment lines in America.  I can see no reason why that same model of overeducation doesn't apply to Canada.

What's REALLY lacking in Canada and the USA is JOBS.  In support of those jobs, and the ones that already exist, is the artificial and unnecessary demand by businesses for degreed employees.  Whatever happened to working your way up the ranks of the business, learning as you go?  Modern businesses (at least in America) have completely given upon upon the mentoring model for forming career employees.  Any fool can see that that is so since American businesses are still and busily SHEDDING employees from their rolls, not adding them!

I tell people all the time that shouldering $40K in school debt just to stand in the unemployment line is FOOLISH.  Businesses are just demanding degrees to weed out people both coming in and who are already inside.  I call it "superqualification", and it's as socially damaging as it is to bid up the price of a home to 8 times your income.  The home didn't change and your economic advantages didn't change; hence, you're in trouble, and some greedy Capitalist fucker is responsible.

Canadians should wise up and learn the European model of apprenticeships for developing career, company employees.  Americans would consider that pinko commie leftie socialist crap, so there's no point in arguing the case with them ... but Canada can still be saved.  Triage demands that we apply our remaining energy towards cultures that can be saved.

>>30
That's because the nation's talent goes to drama, art and African American studies that you liberals set up to try and usher in a "popular revolt" or whatever the fuck is wrong with you.

In support of those jobs, and the ones that already exist, is the artificial and unnecessary demand by businesses for degreed employees.
It's true that you don't need a degree to be skilled, and that many degreed people are effectively unskilled, but if a person has a degree it's a quick filter to eliminate populations of people who are less likely to possess the necessary skills.

Unfortunately businesses do not have the time to carefully evaluate the true extent of the knowledge of an individual. What they have to go on is education, experience and reputation. Nowadays they want all three.

I tell people all the time that shouldering $40K in school debt just to stand in the unemployment line is FOOLISH.
I'd argue that this is a problem with the social system. We need more skilled workers in order to compete against other countries. Anybody arguing otherwise is ignoring trends the past few centuries.

Raising barriers to the education of our workforce will bite us in a couple decades, forcing us to start importing talent if we want to avoid becoming a 2nd- or 3rd-world backwater in the long-run.

Canadians should wise up and learn the European model of apprenticeships for developing career, company employees.
This is partially implemented with coops here. While it's not ideal (I think they should double the amount of coop time), it works fair enough.

I don't think you can hope to get better than that here. Europe has still a more stable employment environment, although it's eroding. Canada's is identical to the US's, and thus is volatile. Nobody wants to invest in an employee who will be gone in a year or two.

If poor people were more greedy they'd put in more effort and stop being poor.

>>33
Another idiot who doesn't know the definition of greed.

>>34
Greed is the motivation to obtain wealth.

Greed is good - for ME!
For everyone else it's very very bad.
If you don't want to share your stuff with me you should be stoned to death you greedy bastard.

>>35
And rape is sex. Here, I'll help you: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/greed

See? Wasn't that easy?

The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that: Rape, for lack of a better word, is good. Rape is right; rape works. Rape clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Rape, in all of its forms, rape for life, for money, for love, knowledge — has marked the upward surge of mankind and rape, you mark my words — will not only save Teldar Paper but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.

>>37
>>rape is sex
Man, I'm glad to know that. This girl said she was going to call the cops on me but I know that dumb bitch can't do shit now!

#36 Greed truly gets you ahead when nobody else is greedy. Columbus knew that...