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Socialized Medicine

Name: Anonymous 2007-07-25 19:04 ID:diq30hC9

We can't afford it.  Some people like Michael Moore say that we should just divert funding for the war toward Socialized Medicine, but the fact of the matter is is that we can't afford the war either.  We are already borrowing money to finance a lot of the dumb programs already in place.  Government spending is out of control, and we need to exercise budget restraint now, not consider new areas to increase spending.

Name: RedCream 2007-07-31 3:02 ID:LfzMXlH4

#86, Human life and capital are the same to the class of ruler that we're probably both discussing.  You seem to have a hard time accepting it.  I relate the attitudes of this ruling class and you assume that I hold my fellow man in the same contempt.  Relating a story is not the same as believing it or subscribing to its morality.

What is the mental problem you have with the difference between a recommendation, and the selfsame recognition that that recommendation is very likely going to be ignored?  Yes, people should be voting for more Humanistic politicians ... but THEY DON'T.  In America, the political system is essentially ruled by one party -- the Corporate War Party.  When it comes to the IMPORTANT things like "foreign relations" and "domestic economy", the Dems and Repubs are EXACTLY the same.  Anyone who tries to vote 3rd and other parties is swiftly classified as a loon ... hence they remain 99% marginalized in all elections at all levels of government.  The system is completely failsome and it's hard to put a stop to anything that's wrong, even evil.

I can only continue to insist that by the violence commonly expressed in the USA and the UK -- both within and aboard -- that Human life in those cultures has little value on average.  I already explained (as being self-evident) that the wealthy are the valued lives, whereas everyone else can take a snootful of some toxic pollutant and just die.  The masses can die under the Imperial bootheel and the media, academics, rules and "rube class" just won't care.  True, the "Rest of the West" (Franco-German Europe) does place more value on Human life, given their social programs ... with important exceptions like the darkies they import to perform nigger labor.  But millions more live in a brightly-lit Orwellian culture.

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