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France and the UK has socialized health care, people drink, smoke, do drugs, and rebel against their governments like crazy. I live in Canada, we have socialized health care, I smoke half a pack a day and I'm 6'4 and 300lbs, more than 100 of it I could stand to loose. That's right.... over 1/3 of me is cheddar cheese and mayonaisse, and I'm a free man, bound only by my petty vices.
PRIVATIZED health care is the first and only step towards a profit driven health care system.
Sicko: hey, why are my insurance rates going up?
HMO: oh, well, we know we can charge you more because the free market says you can't get a better price for the same coverage some where else
Sicko: oh... so you're going to use that money to help more people?
HMO: what? no, we're keeping it.
Sicko: keeping it... in case there's a health crisis?
HMO: no, we want to have lots of money.
Sicko: well... I need this treatment or I'm going to die.
HMO: that's great, but you're not covered for that.
Sicko: oh... well I want to live some more, can I have it anyway?
HMO: No.
Sicko: But I'm going to die.
HMO: yeah, but saving your life would cost us money, and we want to keep the money, so unless there's some kind of contract that forces us into helping you, we're not going to. That way we get more money:D
You want to rebut? Rebut this: PROFITS = LOSS
The excess money HMO's have at the end of the year? It just disappears, they keep it. It's not an institution designed to help people and get them to live longer, it's an institution designed to make money, as much as possible. They have a legal obligation to their shareholders to make decisions that will maximize the amount of money that just disappears into profits. If the CEO of an HMO decided to start giving people treatments they weren't covered for, he'd be fired, and maybe sued.
Canada (land where we have the exact same fucking fast food restaurants you guys do... your filthy culture seeps across the border like pus) has socialized medicine and fat people the same!! And all the freedoms that the lack of a PATRIOT ACT entitles!!
Sicko: hey, I gotz teh cancers
Comrade Nurse: got your OHIP card? XD
Sicko: Oh, the Ontario Health Insurance Plan card, that every citizen in the province has?
Comrade Nurse: Da, sickozsky!
Sicko: I sure do ^_^ Can you give me expensive treatments? I have no money...
Comrade Nurse: hahaha, having no money doesn't mean you deserve to fucking DIE!! What do you think this is, AMERICA?!?!
Sicko: HAHAHAA
Comrade Nurse: HAHAHAHAH
WHOLE FUCKING WORLD: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA