First of all, I'd guess that you're going to label me as an apolitical, apethetic, indifferent nihilist, but, this is not so and what's more, if you vote, I think that you are either the above or stupid.
Nowadays the classic reason of voting is 'the lesser of two evils' or 'this guy will fuck us up the least'. For a start, out of princible, this is not acceptable, voting for such reasons does not help the nation, you convince no-one of your reasons and the same idiots still thrive voting for George bush.
If I vote for someone it not only means I support him but the current system itself. If I support him, and he wins the election, it means that I am partly responsible for his political actions, which, again, is not acceptable. By voting it means I am complying to thier standards, that I should vote when they tell me to vote and only then.
By voting i am put in the same pool as every dumbwit redneck, it shows that they do not care for my opinion, but for my vote. It also means that they have power over me, power, which, I do NOT allow them.
Now you're thinking by not voting I am not going achieve anything while voting may slightly decrease the suffering, well, with this system, with this thinking, no third party may get in power, only two parties are really there, even then they are so similiar it doesn't matter, it also counts that they cling on to thier wasted ideals even when the figures prove them wrong.
You will get nowhere by voting, even if you convince others to vote with you, you are so diluted by OVER NINE-THOUSAND dumbwit rednecks. Whether you vote or not is of no consequence to any outcome, but atleast by not voting you are not unwittingly denying yourself of freedom and ka to boot.
If people don't vote en masse then the people in power will have to notice that they are not being accepted, but, they are still in power so they do not care, then, we shall see who the real dictators are.
So basically, this is sneaky propaganda bent on turning 4channers into apolitical, apathetic, indifferent nihilists who sit by obliviously while dumbwit rednecks take over the world?
Also apathetic is a definition, people vote because they have some sort of incentive to work with a group of supporters in a collective effort to elect someone. If you have no such incentive you are apathetic. This is why voting works, people who don't care don't vote.
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Thelema2007-07-18 17:24 ID:ND51XtS6
I do care, and I don't vote because I don't support either party. Alot of people who don't care vote for reasons such as 'lesser of two evils', which i find apathetic. Also I said you're either apathetic or stupid because I don't see why anyone would support any of the current candidates/parties and voting doesn't seem to be working anymore.
#8, if you vote for the Dem or Repub parties, then you're only voting for the elites who want to destroy the American middle class. How does THAT align with your opinion, since it's suicidal for you?
P.S. Thel, I just realized that you're writing from Britain. You can't join the American Dem Party ... and doubly so since British leaders are the allies of the rightwingnuts in the US.
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Anonymous2007-07-19 13:48 ID:Emd6IU5b
vote for a 3rd party even if it's "throwing away your vote"
>>10 Just for this post I pretended to be American for the ease of it. >>11 Well what's the use of it then? It's like protecting yourself from a radioactive fallout with paper.
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Anonymous2007-07-19 18:44 ID:x0rYZzV5
if you truly don't care i think it's alright not to vote. If you do care but just go "omg it doesn't matter QQ" then you're just stupid. If you're not happy with the way a party is run, start your own or join a party and try to change it.
they don't care for your opinion but for your vote? that's just contradictary. you vote for the party that is trying to put through your opinions or what very similar to your opinions, so if they care for your vote they care for your opinion.
etc. etc. etc. The only good reason for not voting is not giving a shit.
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Anonymous2007-07-19 18:55 ID:2vPCNqw3
If you want to “send a message” don’t just not vote, because politicians don’t care about the opinions of people who don’t vote. Vote for whatever 3rd party candidate most closely resembles your views.
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Anonymous2007-07-19 20:41 ID:jg94Lwpk
not voting for a 3rd party because "your vote won't matter" is exactly what the republicans and democrats want you to think.
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Anonymous2007-07-20 0:40 ID:Oa8Dn6xn
Voting is for chumps. BRING BACK CAESAR!
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Thelema2007-07-20 6:09 ID:262csRD4
Ok.. I admit, I forget to vote because I am usually too busy sucking blakox. Also my original Jewish name was Isaac before I felt the need to "change".
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Thelema2007-07-20 6:14 ID:drv456OT
Not caring is not just the only valid reason to not vote, by voting you are involving yourself with this corrupt system which will never ever let a third party in power and the two main powers are just going to fuck you up in different ways. By not voting you're not just letting people walk all over you either, it is plausible to reject income tax, to reject laws and the beauty is, is that I havn't been put in prison yet. I think by not voting, it is showing that I DO care and that it is the only way for change. By voting well, your just joining the sespit of the stagnant waste of the past.
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Anonymous2007-07-20 11:33 ID:262csRD4
>>19
Vote for a third party and compose legitimate well thought out arguments about how a 2 < party system would be better. You may be too stupid and lazy to make a real difference in the entire counry, but you may be able to change a few things in your state or county.
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Anonymous2007-07-20 11:48 ID:dRGamCRA
No matter under what system you live there'll always be two major parties. Even if both have the same ideology.
Just look at Europe. All their major parties are socialists because they want their fail in at least two flavors.
#21, in the USA, the two parties are so closely aligned pro-corporate, anti-worker, and pro-war that the "flavor of fail" there is much akin to Europe. Of course, as a Capitalist Cocksucker, you didn't even understand what the fuck I just said. Your paycheck depends upon you not understanding, doesn't it?
That's strange, #23, since I'm in America right now as I have been since birth. That's why I command such thorough knowledge of American faults and strengths.
I can only thank you for demonstrating the insularity of the American mind. As long as you're doing OK, it's apparently boffo for everyone else, even your neighbors.
At any rate, there's no chance some rich person would be spending time baiting the working class on 4chan. So you're just another worker bee with huge debts that even your children can't pay (since you will have outsourced all their jobs by then). Some "rich" you are(n't), shit-ape. Like most Americans, of course you heavily confuse DEBT with WEALTH. Your future tax burden will educate you on that soon enough.
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Anonymous2007-07-20 18:10 ID:VWwEy/+B
>>23
Must feel strange paying for the grandest army mankind has ever seen yet finding it unable to conquer the tinyest of nations. Me, i´d like my money back, or at least spent on something that actually had some use to me like you know, roads, powerplants, healthcare, schools, research etc. And yeah i know, im hueg eurofag and surrendermonkey, still think the american public is getting a gigantic assraping from their establishment.
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Anonymous2007-07-20 19:15 ID:Oa8Dn6xn
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We want them to feel like they can beat us, so they will start fighting us in a broader war. Then we will see who is the better fighters.
There will be no holding back in the big one, no longer will we follow the whiny hippie prohibitions of rape, mass graves, and nukes. We will bury the Muslim hordes.
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Anonymous2007-07-20 19:20 ID:Oa8Dn6xn
>>27
PS: You don't need to thank us, just deport the musulmans from Europe and provide military aid in the war.
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Anonymous2007-07-20 20:41 ID:VWwEy/+B
>>27
Well, there will never be a "broader" war since there is no state "broad" enough to battle with the US conventionally. What it will be is Vietnam x100. You follow the muselmen to their places of power, down the rabbithole, into the crags, into the streets, away from the open desert where Abrahms reign supreme. Whos fooling who now? But since im knowingly being trolled by a 12 year old redneck klansman i guess the real fool is me. Enjoy your sister, she likes it black and in the ass, or so your mother told me last time i pimped her to my st Bernard.
Attention, #30: Ref. "OPERATION LINEBACKER". The US dropped more bomb tonnage there than it did for the entirety of its involvement in WWII. Result: THE USA STILL LOST. Conclusion: Your mouth is quite simply filled with shit. The US can't properly conquer a people who refuse to capitulate. PERIOD. Even sicker Empires like Britain's well learned this lesson, at least academically and much after the fact.
In addition, #30, I also heard American soldiers are bulletproof, like the Hebrew Golem (or Superman ... the same thing, really). Such is the intrinsic superiority of the modern supersoldier! They're only holding back since, er, they're nice guys or something like that. Yeah, that must be it. Soldiers are such nice guys in the first place, since the tend to assault defended positions with candy bars and bottles of water (to win "hearts and minds", natch!).