NHS

Here in Britain healthcare is free... and shitty. Because I earn an average income private healthcare here is out of my league as it cannot compete with the subsidised juggernaut. Medical personnel trained in Britain go to other countries because the pay here is so low, whilst replacements are immorally imported from parts of the world where life expectancy is lower than 50. They have also miscalculated the amount of beds required and placed the neurology and psychiatry wards together, I cannot sleep with all these poor people going "waah waah" and mumbling completely random nonsense through the night "sausages, liver, chips, yes please, how much, how much to scrape the lurpak from my spine, i've got it, there will be an explosion and you will get hurt, cover yourself with the blanket" I'm just typing the stuff he's saying rightnow... This goes on through the night...

When you compare healthcare that is free but shitty, to healthcare that is good but too expensive to ever use, you'd find the former is better for general care needs.

You may find that for your income "private healthcare" is out of your league in the UK, but ALL HEALTHCARE would be out of your league here in the USA.  Be at least a little thankful that you don't have to wait for afflictions to become so bad that you have to risk resorting to emergency care, since that kind of care can't be denied to you.  (And after that?  Bankruptcy!  Ain't America great?)

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And if one looks at the statistics, the US has not only the most expensive healthcare in the world, it has also one of the lowest quality compaired to other OECD countries. All and all, its prolly the most inefficient healthcare system in the world, the least bang for your buck, a big fucking scam on the consumers.
http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S.%20HCweb.pdf

I also live in Britain, the NHS has had massive problems, alot of them due to "funding". It's not completly free either, often you have to pay for medication and operations. Once I was on an NHS waiting list for 3 years, they eventually payed for me to have private healthcare, which is a complete joke, I'm not sure if this is a common occurance either.

Well actually, it's not free, we pay the taxes, so that means, we have to pay for people who don't pay taxes, it means we have to pay for immigrants, I'm pretty sure it'd be more efficient if we only had to pay a form of insurance for ourselves and taxes for emergency services. Taxes in Britain make sure that we're all in a loophole of having no money.

I can't deny that Britain has its social problems and that its healthcare system doesn't need fixing.  However, the USA suffers from the same excess costs from illegal aliens, since no matter who you are, when you show up at an emergency room in the USA, you get service.  Those costs are passed along in various forms to other insured, individual payers, and of course that most marvelous of last-gaspers, the American taxpayer.  BUT ... at least Britain's system of socialized medicine is honest.  When you pay taxes you know what they're going towards.  In the USA, we have more and more people indulging in "dishonest" socialized medicine, since they use emergency care, run up the bills that way, and then either bankrupt, leave the country, or remain so poor that the costs are written off (i.e. generally shifted onto taxpayers).

The British need to perform the same fixes as Americans do in that sense:  they should stop ceding power to the Lords of Capital who just loooooove illegal alien (and other immigrant) labor, and then secure their borders like a real nation does, and then reserve healthcare for citizens.  Since the Brits are just as much money whores as Americans, I have no expectation that that fix will ever come to pass, and instead like America, the British tiny empire will collapse from within.  Greed is killing Britain's native strengths.

the NHS is nowhere near honest, or atleast our government isn't. I wouldn't say Greed is killing us, as without greed no-one would get anywhere, without greed I think we'd be far left behind America. Is it also greed to pay for the poor and needy? We won't collapse either, just turn into a beaurocratic nightmare (which is what NHS currently is).

Most of the older Brits constantly complain about the system (and the weather), infact alot of older Brits are moving abroad, showing a massive decline in British patriosm (I believe this started with Thatcher). The whole tax system should be completly revised, income tax, healthcare etc etc.

Thelema/OQffkiUl, when I said the NHS was at least honest, it's honest in direct comparison to the mode I outlined.  In Britain, you don't need to dump your health problems upon an emergency room type of facility, and later on just bankrupt out of the debt (since you never intended to pay, anyway).  In Britain, it's at least honest to tax for socialized medicine and then deliver it.  You can quibble otherwise about the details of monetary movements in Britain's government.  But what I said is still true.

As for greed, you're not paying sufficient attention.  Greed is unhealthy desire.  Normal desires are not destructive; in contrast, greed is very destructive.  Such destruction is coming to kill you.  Surely, the industrial excesses of your Imperial era are killing you as a population.  Allegedly, 1 in 53 UK children are now classified as autistic.  You can't spin that away as "getting somewhere" from greed.

As for collapse, it's less than nice to hear that you think it won't happen.  Sadly, the prevailing feeling that "it can't happen here" is what EXACTLY enables it to happen there.  Bureaucratic jumbles cause systems to collapse.  Every time.

And finally, your nation's flight of wealth and your desire to change the tax system well show how seriously in danger that your nation really is.  I know it's hard for you to see collapse in your empire, but all empires collapse and it happens purely since they ARE empires.  All your negatives are mounting up and eventually will create either a catastrophe or a degradation that will make Britain politically unrecognizable in 2 generations.

I'm going to express irony here, my cousin is autistic, i kind of despise autism because i fail at seeing it as a disease but merely a social incacibility that's drawn too far. Also, I have nihilistic beliefs, This empire shall fall like rome when it's energy is lost. but not yet, not till we have run out of war, not till the people are educated (read as: not indoctrined). So don't presume that I have that mentality you have stated, which is true, many Brits have it (mainly because we don't have  violent weather).