Agnostics

Fence-sitting pussies

>>39

Nah, fuck you man, we are rebellious shits who like to go against whatever the majority is for.

FUCK DA SYSTEM!!!!1111!!!!

>>40

You're in deep denial. I gave you an example of what scientists do on the most BASIC LEVEL. Go stink up some other thread with arguments from ignorance, cockgobbler.

I also love how you add tons of unnecessary ad hominem shit to your post whenever you dont even know what you're talking about.

>>39

Bullshit. Read a fucking book. God of the gaps is a lame argument.

>>39

http://www.amazon.com/Comprehensible-Cosmos-Where-Laws-Physics/dp/1591024242/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/105-6632110-7387622?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182072110&sr=8-2

Everyone is a closet agnostic.

>>45
Not true, I'm openly agnostic.

Agnostics should be fed to the ambivalent lions of ambiguity.

agnostics are like libertarians, too indecisive to form opinions

they're not open-minded, they're just stupid

>>48
Libertarians are some of the most dogmatic, opinionated people on earth.

>>49

funny thing is they always talk out of their assholes.  Sure the free market is good at a lot of things.  We can all agree on that.  But that idea is a pathetic hollow shell to build a national party around. 

"Free Market" is an illusion.

>>47

Or maybe not, who knows?

>>48
As opposed to socialists who are close minded and over intellectualise what few facts they do accept into some crazy unrealistic dystopia?

Libertarians are like agnostics because both are scientifically minded, a consequence of being open minded is that you can only say you know what you can prove and you cannot jump to conclusions. You can spurt hypothesis and suppositions around over everyone's faces like a sprinkler system, you just can't can't start placing insane unsubstantiated demands apon everyone.

>>53
1) Agnostics are not scientific minded. In science something has to be proven to be taken for truth. As long as it is not proven it is not true, ie ufos are assumed not to exist, stargate sg01 is assumed NOT to be a accurate depiction of ancient egypt, the loch ness monster is assumed not to exist etc. God is assumed not to exist, plus there is no need for him anyway, there is yet a question that cant be answered by anything other than a diety of any form. Agnostics are liek 10 year old wannabe philosophers with no real problems to solve who invent soemthing that makes them interesting. Well, you fail at life.

2) Libertarians are not scientific minded because they neglect every empirical fact that does not support their position (which is a safe non-position to start with) and creates strawmen out of everything else. While agnosticism is some nerds way to seem interesting libertarianism is the political idiots way to seem to have a catch-all solution. In complex systems there are never any easy answers, something that is true in one part is not true in another etc and simple principle-politics does not apply to human modern society. But since the libertarian will take any critisism as over intellectualisation from right wing well fare socialist nazis the point is moot. Try to convince your dog that a cat is fine too, that will be easier.

>>54
1) You make the same mistake as creationists when they say "EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY". Theories are assumptions made to explain trends seen in the facts. No greater example of why this axiom of scientific method is necessary is classical physics and the emergence of quantum physics.

Saying "Classical physics is correct." is different from saying "Within it's range of accuracy, classical physics is correct.".

Saying "God does not exist." is different from saying "From what we have hitherto seen there is no direct evidence of God's existence.".

2) By criticising the ignorance of facts and use of fallacies in others you blatantly make the fallacy of believing personality assassination proves what they are saying is wrong. I don't care about the actions of a minority of libertarians, anyone who has been on 4chan already knows there are assholes in every group. We are putting libertarianism on trial here, not libertarians. The only argument presented is the idea that a law that works in one country may not work in another. I disagree, whilst this is true for some laws this is only because the environment is different.

All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, and false and meaningless in some sense.

eg. God exists.

God only accepts true faith in him and Satan only accepts true faith in him. There is no in between so make up your mind agnostics.

>>57
You're either with us or against us, eh? Doesn't work that way.

>>57
What if I don't have faith in Satan.

>>59

If you don't worship Satan yet you don't believe in God, you still indirectly serve Satan.

>>60

who decides when i believe in god enough? :O

Deism > all

You can believe in a God without those BS "holy" books.
In practice it's pretty much like Atheism but it's above that immature "GOD DOESN'T DO MAGICKS FOR ME SO THERE'S NO GOD".

>>62

Deism is just as bad as theism. And its even worse that youre treating the ideology like a sports team. Also, Atheists don't do say that shit, they say "THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR GOD SO HE DOESNT EXIST."

Trust me, deism doesn't last for long. I used to call myself one for about a week until I went back to agnosticism and then Atheism for good.

pantheism is superior

end of discussion

polytheism is superior. 

Now the discussion may end.

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ATHEISM IS A RELIGION YOU FAGGOTS. IT'S RIGHT HERE IN THE LIST!
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>>70
Religion sucks. Few corrupt fuckers telling the rest what to do? Fuck that!

>>71

I think there's even more harm in telling people everything is fine, that's an even greater crime because it sedates them to disregard physical realities.

>>72

If everyone where aware of the physical realities concerning themselves and their existence, humanity would commit mass suicide.

>>73

No, the weak-minded pussies who can't stomach reality will commit mass suicide. The rest of us will be better off for it.

>>74
Or they'll become greedy assholes in a desperate attempt to make what little life they have left worth living and fuck your shit up.

the face fence sitting of moses

>>55
1) No. I assume that as long as god is not proven, he does not exist. Its exactly the same as saying "god doesnt exist". When there´s one thread of circumstantial evidence that says that god may exist, i go into the mode saying "i dont believe god exist but i dont know". Until then there is no reason to give the god hypothesis any effort or credence what so ever. This is different from evolution where there have been enigmas (suicide and sacrifice, group evolution etc), but through good use of the scientific method these questions have been answered in a satisfying manner. The level of proofability you demand is impossible to attain and therefore meaningless, which by coincidence agnosticism also is.

2)First, describe how a law can be detached from its environment. And fyi, laws =/= universal etchic principles, so killing is wrong is not a law but the latter.
Secondly, libertarians has trolled this site incessantly and their own personal failures has been intimatly connected with their ideology of fail. Even gazing beying 4chan, what is my greatest impression of libertarianism? They dont believe in global warming nor second hand smoking but when they are wrong they are too arogant to admit failure. That is annoying. And so are you.

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There is no fence sitting because individual religious conflict is not a matter of taking sides.

>>79
Truth. I've heard so many times from atheists that they "are the only ones who listen to reason", yet they refuse to accept such simple logic. Are they afraid of losing converts to agnosticism? What a retarded way of thinking especially for people who claim the world is a better place without religion.