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Cost of Israel to the US

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-08 0:53 ID:3zAuBFQ+

Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today's population, that is more than $5,700 per person.

This is an estimate by Thomas Stauffer, a consulting economist in Washington. For decades, his analyses of the Middle East scene have made him a frequent thorn in the side of the Israel lobby.

For the first time in many years, Mr. Stauffer has tallied the total cost to the US of its backing of Israel in its drawn-out, violent dispute with the Palestinians. So far, he figures, the bill adds up to more than twice the cost of the Vietnam War.

And now Israel wants more. In a meeting at the White House late last month, Israeli officials made a pitch for $4 billion in additional military aid to defray the rising costs of dealing with the intifada and suicide bombings. They also asked for more than $8 billion in loan guarantees to help the country's recession-bound economy.

Considering Israel's deep economic troubles, Stauffer doubts the Israel bonds covered by the loan guarantees will ever be repaid. The bonds are likely to be structured so they don't pay interest until they reach maturity. If Stauffer is right, the US would end up paying both principal and interest, perhaps 10 years out.

Israel's request could be part of a supplemental spending bill that's likely to be passed early next year, perhaps wrapped in with the cost of a war with Iraq.

Israel is the largest recipient of US foreign aid. It is already due to get $2.04 billion in military assistance and $720 million in economic aid in fiscal 2003. It has been getting $3 billion a year for years.

Adjusting the official aid to 2001 dollars in purchasing power, Israel has been given $240 billion since 1973, Stauffer reckons. In addition, the US has given Egypt $117 billion and Jordan $22 billion in foreign aid in return for signing peace treaties with Israel.

"Consequently, politically, if not administratively, those outlays are part of the total package of support for Israel," argues Stauffer in a lecture on the total costs of US Middle East policy, commissioned by the US Army War College, for a recent conference at the University of Maine.

These foreign-aid costs are well known. Many Americans would probably say it is money well spent to support a beleagured democracy of some strategic interest. But Stauffer wonders if Americans are aware of the full bill for supporting Israel since some costs, if not hidden, are little known.

One huge cost is not secret. It is the higher cost of oil and other economic damage to the US after Israel-Arab wars.

In 1973, for instance, Arab nations attacked Israel in an attempt to win back territories Israel had conquered in the 1967 war. President Nixon resupplied Israel with US arms, triggering the Arab oil embargo against the US.

That shortfall in oil deliveries kicked off a deep recession. The US lost $420 billion (in 2001 dollars) of output as a result, Stauffer calculates. And a boost in oil prices cost another $450 billion.

Afraid that Arab nations might use their oil clout again, the US set up a Strategic Petroleum Reserve. That has since cost, conservatively, $134 billion, Stauffer reckons.

Other US help includes:

• US Jewish charities and organizations have remitted grants or bought Israel bonds worth $50 billion to $60 billion. Though private in origin, the money is "a net drain" on the United States economy, says Stauffer.

• The US has already guaranteed $10 billion in commercial loans to Israel, and $600 million in "housing loans." (See editor's note below.) Stauffer expects the US Treasury to cover these.

• The US has given $2.5 billion to support Israel's Lavi fighter and Arrow missile projects.

• Israel buys discounted, serviceable "excess" US military equipment. Stauffer says these discounts amount to "several billion dollars" over recent years.

• Israel uses roughly 40 percent of its $1.8 billion per year in military aid, ostensibly earmarked for purchase of US weapons, to buy Israeli-made hardware. It also has won the right to require the Defense Department or US defense contractors to buy Israeli-made equipment or subsystems, paying 50 to 60 cents on every defense dollar the US gives to Israel.

US help, financial and technical, has enabled Israel to become a major weapons supplier. Weapons make up almost half of Israel's manufactured exports. US defense contractors often resent the buy-Israel requirements and the extra competition subsidized by US taxpayers.

• US policy and trade sanctions reduce US exports to the Middle East about $5 billion a year, costing 70,000 or so American jobs, Stauffer estimates. Not requiring Israel to use its US aid to buy American goods, as is usual in foreign aid, costs another 125,000 jobs.

• Israel has blocked some major US arms sales, such as F-15 fighter aircraft to Saudi Arabia in the mid-1980s. That cost $40 billion over 10 years, says Stauffer.

Stauffer's list will be controversial. He's been assisted in this research by a number of mostly retired military or diplomatic officials who do not go public for fear of being labeled anti-Semitic if they criticize America's policies toward Israel.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-08 9:54 ID:9OISWdzm

>>1
So why does the sly businessman of the world burn cash on the money pit known as israel? I mean, it seems ridiculos or at least naive to assume its out of kindness or some other sentiment.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-08 10:18 ID:jwtAFiFA

>>2

Retired General Wesley Clark said it best in January of this year -> New York Money People.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-08 19:19 ID:Heaven

I wouldn't sage this if I didn't already know where the poster came from.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-08 20:19 ID:dzPWFWX6

i think its a vicious circle, the USA cant be seen to be doing nothing because it will be deemed greedy or neglegent. everyone who looks outside the box can see that the billions will go nowhere

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-08 20:45 ID:jwtAFiFA

>>4

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Name: Anonymous 2007-06-09 9:44 ID:Rn+4lTIV

Retards. Its about destabilizing a region wich contains a mojority of the worlds oil. If the owners of this oil would unite and put up a common front against the US then the US would suffer terribly. So they pump money into Israel hoping that will create enough problems for the arabs, and looking how things are going its money well spent, woithout it gas prices would soar. More evidence of this is that Egypt and Turkey are the next largest recipients of US aid.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-09 11:53 ID:UEVvXogI

>>7
try again faggot.  that reasoning is 50 years old and doesn't apply if you have even the slightest knowledge of economics.

http://www.slate.com/id/2159263/

"A gas cartel might even be good news for America. While energy cartels like OPEC can cause short-term dislocations, they actually have a pretty sad record of controlling prices and bending the world to their whims.

OPEC is like the Star Wars bar scene of geopolitics—a collection of autocrats, despots, kleptocrats, and monarchies skilled at duplicity and prone to invading each other. Cartels seek to influence prices by setting production quotas. But autocratic countries frequently find reasons to cheat, producing more when prices are high, for example. A gas cartel would be just as fractious. The notion that Vladimir Putin, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Muyammar Qaddafi would reliably stick to the terms of a cartel pact is laughable.

What's more, the natural-gas cartel would find its power limited by large producers who wouldn't join. In 2004, the United States, Canada, the Netherlands, Norway, and the United Kingdom—democratic, liberal, Western countries all—collectively accounted for 35 percent of total global production. The fear and annoyance induced by a Putin cartel would induce Western gas producers to invest in production at home, as Norway is already doing, or goad the United States to make greater efforts to tap into large domestic reserves by opening up new areas for exploration.

More importantly, cartel efforts to manipulate the supply and price of natural gas would provide more incentives for consumers to reduce use and to redouble already frenzied efforts to develop alternative sources of energy: ethanol, solar, coal gasification, and nuclear energy. In Germany, leaders fretting over the reliance upon Russia for natural gas and oil are reconsidering the nation's move to phase out nuclear energy. Periods of sustained higher gas prices—combined with growing concern about the environmental, economic, and geopolitical costs of fossil fuels—have stimulated changes in policy and behavior. The International Energy Agency last month reported that the 30 members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development slashed their collective consumption of oil by 0.6 percent in 2006—the first decline in 206 years."

Name: just some corrections 2007-06-09 23:14 ID:2B2fmqlP

>>8
First off, that article is about NATURAL GAS, not OIL (Petrol). Huge difference. I'll continue anyway as if this were actually referring to  oil.

Norway and Canada are the only democratic country mentioned that actually have a net export of oil. Well, UK too, but that's insignificant.
RUSSIA is NOT A MEMBER of OPEC.
The United States is, of course, a the greatest consumer of petroleum (whether it's democratic or liberal is debatable).

I'm not going to bother going into the various ideological leanings of slate.com

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Chart-of-Oil-Trading-Nation.gif
http://www.opec.org/aboutus/

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-09 23:26 ID:Q0B4Gb8J

ITT OP spins off into oblivion.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-09 23:32 ID:2B2fmqlP

>>10
We can only hope.

Name: Anonymous 2007-06-09 23:46 ID:Rn+4lTIV

>>8
So if its not oil then what is the US buying by funding Israel? Bagels?

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