Venezuelan Channel RCTV closed by Chavez

Last night the oldest channel in the whole country was forced out of the air (against constitutional rights) by President Chavez.

RCTV who refused to alter its critique of the current government to favor a Fidel-wannabe president is now out of air and more then 3000 people are out of work as the government took measures to assure that this people who are against a regiment communist in the country were to be employed by other TV channels.


Last words of Eladio Laréz at the last minutes of the closing of the Channel.(Spanish)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_4zLvaCp44

The TV station merely disagrees with the government. The protesters are correct, end of discussion.

Chavez's regime is little more than a facade to hide a military dictatorship monopolising Venezuela's natural resources which claims to want to create some unrealistic utopia through chavezship. Because if Chavez claims to be socialist then he must be doing good for the people of Venezuela and if they are still living in poverty and having jackboots stamped in their face for complaining it must be the evil US's fault. Am I right comrades?

Oh Chavez. When will you learn..

How is this any different to the sterilization of US media? Chavez is just more direct and not so full of shit about it.

Who would you trust? The guys who says one thing but buttfucks you and does something else or the guy who tells it straight?

no wonder the US is so fucked up...

why do you care anyway ffs?  are you venezuelan?  thought not

>>4
Imagine if the supreme court let Bush rule by decree for 18 months. What you are imagining is what it's like in Venezuela.

Whether the leader is socialist or republican, it doesn't make a lump of your boyfriend's shit (that you enjoy eating) of difference.

>>6
they did.

>>5
OP here, yes I am Venezuelan, but I reside in the states now, pretty much because Chavez fucked up everything there, I think I have enough reasons to care asswipe.

>>4
And just so you know Chavez isnt as honest and straight foward as you might think, this guy is the same asshole that went to this same channel he is now closing looking for support when he was running for president the first time and had everybody thinking he wanted the best for the country now he is backstabbing everyone that helped him ascend to the presidency.

>>7
I didn't get the memo.

Chavez is a reminder that liberty comes first, not equality. The only legitimate argument for enforcing equality is in the service of ensuring liberty. Unfortunately Venezuelan voters are 100s of miles away from the nearest libertarian text and do not realise that enforcing equality at the expense of liberty only results in tyranny and everyone being equally oppressed.

>>8
>>9
have a cry bitches. every politician on this planet is looking to stick it in your poopers.

RCTV is like the Fox News of Venezuela, only worse. It illegally supported an overthrow against him in 2002. If an American channel instigated it's citizens to violently overthrow the democratically elected leader of the USA, would the channel be allowed to continue to operate its propaganda for another 4 years? I think not. They would be immediately shut down and tried for sedition and treason. I mean, look at how some Americans freaked out at the prospect of Al Jazeera (hardly a radical news source) being available.

When RCTV's VHF license came up for renewal yesterday, Chavez's government simply decided not to renew it. Don't make it sound like he marched in there with guns blazing. Plus, RCTV's cable and satellite licenses are still valid. A very mild reaction, all things considered.

This Chavez punk better knock it awf if he hopes to stay in power. What a fucking moron!

>>11
Wow I don't know where the fuck do you get your news buddy but what you just wrote there is about the same quality of shit that comes out straight of Chavez's lackeys.

Let me clarify for you as you dont seem to have any clue of what happened:

1 - RCTV had nothing to do with the failed coup d'etat from 2002, they simply were there following the news as they happened and filmed footage of that it was thought to be the new president at the moment, they neither financed this attempt nor did they publicized it.

2 - Venezuela's constitution gives the right to RCTV to renew its license as they have never being found guilty of anything the government has charged them with, not a single time, none, zero.

3 - Chavez took illegitimate possession of all the equipment owned by RCTV to establish his new public channel TVes, agents from the National Guard moved into the build were RCTV used to be to expropriate and assure their signal was stopped.

So next time do a little research about the stuff you write, I bet you are just repeating the stuff you hear like the little tool you are.

but..but..socialism isn't bad. You should all try it.

Chavez FTW

>>14
Socialism is great in words but not so great in practice, is in the human nature to always want to be on top of the rest.

I heard RCTV openly supported the coup.

I am from Venezuela, and while I am not a Chavez supporter, fuck RCTV. Their continuous, almost suicidal campaign against the actual regime damaged the quality of their programming to the point that the only watchable thing they were broadcating was Who Wants to be a Millionaire. The supporters of the opposition saying that RCTV wasn't political and didn't support the 2002 coup are as blind and retarded as the Chavistas seeing plots everywhere.

BTW, while the decision to end their broadcast is obviously pure political bullshiyt and hardly ethical, it is not illegal by any mean.

>>17
You heard right. Not only RCTV but all the private national TV stations were clearly supporting it. None of them condemned the break of the national constitution, none of them dared to question the intentions of those people appearing on camera saying that they were taking control of the nation, none of them condemned the attack against the Cuba embassy in Caracas, none of them complained when it was announced that VTV (the national public TV station) would be illegaly closed, none of them reported when people started protesting against the coup, etc.

Again, I am not a "Chavista", but I am not blind.

>>16
Not necessarily, but without safeguards against tyranny you certainly are hedging your bets. It's the equivalent of neglecting to teach gun safety when you give your child her first gun.

>>16
Also tyranny has lesser forms that are not readily apparent and the safeguards against it come in the form of libertarianism.

>>10
So we should support Chavez because other politicians want to stick it in my pooper?
>>11
Illegally supported? Guess who decided that saying you support certain things is illegal in Venezuela? Bear in mind it has never been proven that they solicit terrorism or murder, all they have done is oppose Chavez. When CNN reported there might be ballot corruption in Florida would you have supported shutting down CNN?
>>13
Truth told. >>11 needs to go back to "das kapital" camp.
>>19
And I'm not an "evil amerikkkan capitalist" or that the instigators of the coup were fighting with the socialists for control of Venezuela's oil, but it doesn't take a genius that Chavez is just another asshole spraying the same diarrhea over the faces of the Venezuelan people whilst socialists like you jerk off.

>>22
And I'm not an "evil amerikkkan capitalist" or fail to notice that the instigators of the coup against Chavez were fighting with the socialists for control of Venezuela's oil, but it doesn't take a genius to realise that Chavez is just another asshole spraying the same diarrhea over the faces of the Venezuelan people whilst socialists like you jerk off.

>>23
What does that have to do with anything I said? Where did I call you "evil amerikkkan capitalist"? Exactly how did you reach the conclusion that I am a "socialist"?

This is exactly the cancer that is consuming Venezuela, that we have to polarized sides suffering of tunnel vision. For Chavez supporters, if you are not a Chavista you are a BURGEOIS CAPITALIST PIG. Likewise, for the oppositors like the OP if you don't oppose Chavez and celebrate everything the idiotic opposition leaders say, you are FILTY COMMUNIST SCUM. Meh.

The Venezuelans need to stop bitching. That is Hugo Chavez's country. Hugo Chavez needs to make Pat Robertson his vice president.

>>24
So you oppose polarization by calling anyone who criticises Chavez an absolute extremist? The OP is logical and moderate, he doesn't support any other leader he is just pointing out how idiotic Chavez is.

>>26
Uh, I assumed the OP is the same person I quoted, and seeing the chain of posts I think it's a pretty safe assumption. Considering that he called me a socialist and complained of being called "evil amerikkkan capitalist" without any basis, yeah, I say that's an extremist position.

And I oppose polarization by calling both sides as the dumbasses they are, read the whole post before making accusations.

There're some videos of Chavez's speeches on youtube.
This guy is so hilarious I think I gonna run for president in some latin american shithole, too.
We all know the dumb stuff that Bush said every now and then but Chavez does it on a complety new level. He's the avant garde of the dumb and powerful.

Well this discussion is getting heated, this is the OP and just to clarify my posts so far have been 1, 8, 13, 16.

I know that its hard to judge whats happening in Venezuela from what little info makes it out to the international media, for example I haven't heard anything yet in international news about the decision of the government to illegally expropriate most of the equipment owned by RCTV.

For those who think RCTV was just a biased news channel ala (FOX NEWS) who had a secret agenda to overthrow Chavez are utterly incorrect, RCTV has been one of the major critics of the Chavez administration but it has also been there to criticize past governments that failed to deliver just like Chavez is failing to deliver all that he promised.

>>24
 What You say is half true, Venezuela has always been a very homogeneous country until now..., Chavez has taken care of separating the whole country as those whose are with his so called Bolivarian revolution and the stupidly called Oligarchy.

>>26
Like you said I don't stand with any other leaders and much less with Chavez, I don't stand with the extreme right simply because there is no one trustworthy in the whole faction, most of the people trying to lead the opposition are the same fuckers screw the country so much that people didn't thought it twice before they voted for a lunatic like Chavez.

>>29

Shut up. Communism is the true path and you're wrong. You're probably a Venezuelan who left because you have too much money and now you're apologizing for the TV station which propagated radical and untrue things about our beloved Chavez.

>>29

i dunno, i live in europe and it was on the news here, there was also an in-depth interview with some guy who studied latin america, one of those random "hey smart man, what can you tell us about this" interviews.. It wasn't much but it was there, don't know why US news havn't reported on it. 

>>31

We probably aren't reporting on it because world news doesn't mean anything to us. To many Americans, they are the be-all-of-all of the world thinking everyone wants to become an American and all other countries are inherently wrong in their decisions whether it be a breach of whatever it is they call freedom or do something silly.

>>30
>>32
wut.

misinformation is as powerful as information.

maybe you all forgot that somewhere along the way to defending  media of your respective countries in general...?