As we all know, everything we do is dependent on oil. Electricity comes from burned fossil fuels (Hydroelectric plants, Nuclear Plants and such are all powered using oil). Do you think it will happen with in the next 15-20 years? If so, what do you think will happen? How fucked will we all be?
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Anonymous2007-05-09 16:18 ID:faJPHZtk
if there's any sense in people, oil will be ereserved for the industry, and we'll be getting electricity from lasting sources and/or clean coal (if they ever manage to develop the process), and as electricity prices rise, i see alot more people using thigns like solar panels etc. to reduce their "imported" electricity usage.
but since people don't, we'll probably get alot of war and chaos. gl & hf.
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Anonymous2007-05-09 19:51 ID:YA7k5L2W
problem is those in charge never (and still) dont give a shit.
consequences get in the way of profits so fuck consequences.
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Anonymous2007-05-09 22:29 ID:w60IkcW9
The price of oil will continue to rise and rise, and then will be replaced by something else when it becomes ridiculous. No hueg war, just market flucation.
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Anonymous2007-05-09 22:38 ID:h9UYpwJ7
>>1 >Nuclear Plants and such are all powered using oil
FAIL
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Anonymous2007-05-09 22:44 ID:m1AqLPc6
There are leaders who refuse to do anything but fill their pockets.
There are leaders who pay lip service to reform and discovery without committing to anything worthwhile.
And there are nutjobs who think either of these people know what's best.
A Politician's job isn't to solve problems, it's to get elected.
there's been fought wars over the prices of scarce resources before and there will again :/
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Anonymous2007-05-10 3:35 ID:O1Dss3pS
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Yeah, but at this time alternative energy sources aren't nearly cheap enough to meet the demand, we're going to see a lot of people practically HAVING to buy a NEW ethanol or hydrogen car here in the states, and the US is behind the curve on ethanol use, and hydrogen powered cars are still too expensive to mass-produce.
Wind, Solar, Tidal, Nuclear, Clean Coal, Hydroelectric, Hydrogen, Biomass, any one of 30 different sugar/alcohol agricultural products...etc, etc.
Any, more likely all in combination, will slowly replace fossil fuels based upon supply & demand characteristics reflected in relative price differentials.
There is no long term reason for concern.
There is only short term concern based primarily upon an entrenched, slow to react, capital intensive, overly centralized oligopoly of fossil fuel companies built upon the stupidity and greed of the average pleeb consumer...most especially the average doorknob American consumer....which simultaneously chases quarterly profits to the detriment of longer term planning, daily stock price changes, low cost gasoline, overconsumption, and massive personal debt, in a throw away society that elects everyone from the dog catcher to the president based upon 7 second sound bites and well coiffed hair.
If it weren't for the abortion of society that the US has become and it's fair share of instant gratification chasing wannabee fans the world over...we would be much further along a real free market path to diversified energy sources.
Alas, this generation and the next will get to suffer somewhat...and hell we probably deserve a little pain since our forefathers would likely be disgusted with our current behaviour.
But in the end, it'll be a modest blip in the transition from one dominant energy source to multiple diversified sources. All hail innovation!!!!...and our ability to save ourselves from ourselves. Thank God, or at least Leonardo Da Vinci, for that.
we've been through them all now havn't we? except ofc. for the somewhat rarer theocracies and tyrannies and monarchies (not constitutional)
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Anonymous2007-05-11 10:58 ID:eHuWtl89
>>14
Demcoracy is sort of better than fascism and communism by an epic margin.
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Anonymous2007-05-11 18:21 ID:HvqTaa6C
>>15
yes, i agree, but that's not what we're talking about.
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Anonymous2007-05-11 18:26 ID:eHuWtl89
Fossil fuels will never run out completely, neither will our access to bio fuels. They were producing 1000s of tons of it in the ancient era just for cooking, it's not as if we can't do the same. Invest in coorporations who are investing in renewable energy firms. As always US coorporations and imitators across the globe solve all the world's problems and need your money.
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Anonymous2007-05-11 20:42 ID:ptrQCEcW
I believe we will all nuclear bomb each other over the last oil reserves and our lives will be pretty much like the Mad Max movies.
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Anonymous2007-05-11 21:55 ID:eHuWtl89
>>18
MOVE TO NORTH KOREA AND PROSTITUTE YOUR ASSHOLE TO THE MILITARY LEADERSHIP THEN
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Anonymous2007-05-11 22:07 ID:lK9pQRtF
Fossil fuels will never run out completely, neither will our access to bio fuels. They were producing 1000s of tons of it in the ancient era just for cooking, it's not as if we can't do the same. Invest in coorporations who are investing in renewable energy firms. As always Kenyan coorporations and imitators across the globe solve all the world's problems and need your money.
i believe >>20 was mocking >>17 for the part of his text that said "As always US coorporations and imitators across the globe solve all the world's problems and need your money."
Nuclear fuels just get to Nuclear Plants on their own. The workers who work in those facilities just magically appear on the job, and the foods they eat also had their own legs.
While you're right, the OP was pretty stupid by saying something like that, what he says still holds merit. We can place all of our chips into alternative sources of energy, but we will as of the time being be in debt to oil to transport and serve as a backbone to whatever alternatives are created.
>>29 after 100 years, hopefully we've developed an alternative fuel source, or we just realize that we need to stop building our communities so far apart and compact them so we can stop being lazy and walk to school or work. if not, then we are fucked from being lazy
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Anonymous2007-05-16 1:25 ID:wgi9EAxU
>>32
you got several hundred thousand years to wait?
before you shout "fail" think about how all the parts and equipment that makes nuclear plants is MADE. it is manufactured using OIL, you dumb fuck
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Anonymous2007-05-16 21:05 ID:J9debxHD
>>37
Diesel can be refined very easily from animal fats. Why would you have to wait several hundred thousand years?
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Anonymous2007-05-16 21:36 ID:wgi9EAxU
i believe everyone is missing the point that i made in >>35.
yes you can make ethanol and diesel from basically any organic material. what you cant make is the current fuel type (petrol) without a process to ages TONNES of organic material into several liters of crude.
we just didnt think what the overuse of black gold would cause through did we...