So, not meaning to be a heartless asshole who politicize tragedies, but srsly, would the massacre occur if the US had a tad bit more restrictive gun laws?
The ideal society needs no weapons and that would be great. but it is not a reality. you are right any tool could be potentially lethal. Knives are a little more precise than that of a baseball bat.
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Anonymous2007-04-18 1:18 ID:DktMvX0C
>>41
The bat has reach, and can knock out or kill instantly with a good swing, and it will hurt like hell if it doesn't. A knife is not an instant kill, and people have driven themselves to emergency rooms with knives implanted in their skull. It is more threatening, and that's all.
True enough. a good swing could cause brain damage. a knife is for the skilled. but the bat is more useful because of its other uses. but then can they control sports?
that is the problem. where does the government have to stand back and say we cant touch this stuff. where do they have to stop restrictions with household items?
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Anonymous2007-04-18 1:40 ID:DktMvX0C
I would not call guns a household item. Either way, I don't really care. I wouldn't shoot and possibly kill someone for stealing my television, and have that on my conscience. If someone breaks in, I'll call the cops and let them deal with it, rather than confront them and risk being shot myself.
well not really a house hold item. but if there was gun control and such. where would you want them to stop. if they go all the way, then its communism. if they dont touch anything then it is Anarchy. so there is not much room for a mistake.
Clinton almost fucked that one up.
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Anonymous2007-04-18 1:52 ID:uxzi8tM6
>>54
i'm seriously confused. i dont know whether to laugh or cry.
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Anonymous2007-04-18 1:53 ID:DktMvX0C
Different countries, societies, cultures, all have different solutions that are best.
The brits have pretty much gone all the way (though I'm no expert), and that is not communism.
A bad thing of course is thinking in terms of 'gun crime', rather than overall violent crime.
Politician often do this as a way of appearing 'in control', and if they can't go after guns, they'll go after something more foolish, like movies, comic books, or video games.
I'm more frightened of chainsaw crime, really. I'd much rather be shot than chainsawed.
i am with you. i only fear torture, not death.
as for the communism, i was talking about the government holding everything and then distributing it.
I think that it is sad that people blame guns for crime, and saying that guns kill. When was the last time you saw a gun pull its own trigger. as for computerized guns... the person who put it down is more or less responsible for the deaths.
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Anonymous2007-04-18 1:59 ID:4QVZj+HH
>>56
Chainsaws and burlap sacks will never be looked at the same way again...
Trolled or not, anyone who European fucktard that starts shit about America's gun law need only point to this thread. There is no logic in stripping people of weaponry, especially when everything our country is founded on is against it.
no u.
thus far no eurofag has presented an adequate argument. that's your fault and no one elses
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Anonymous2007-04-18 5:15 ID:5IZ9+ArG
Cars and driving result in accidents that causes fatalities. Humans drive cars and without humans accidents would go down to zero. We all know this, yet we allow the state to impose regulations over our precious driving, like speed limits and traffic lights. Even the car companies play the big brother and installs seatbelts without our consent! We have a constitutional right to own and drive cars where ever we damn well please as in a pursuit of happines, and the communists in washington wants to take our freedom away! They believe each individual to stupid to handle his automobile in a safe and secure manner, but hes not that stupid and all it takes is education.
Are the English really smarter than us? Or do they just fail at US government? Every analogy you've guys have thrown at us has been the equivalent of a very dense shit, busting out of Thatchers ass into Blair's mouth.
I'll let someone who still gives a shit point it out. I'm already sick of this ever-trolling faggotry.
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loquacious2007-04-18 8:42 ID:iTDzw7HA
you dumb fuck. driving is a privilege not a right.
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Anonymous2007-04-18 9:52 ID:7ehObPrv
This is not a gun control issue but a matter of race. Comment accordingly.
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Anonymous2007-04-18 10:38 ID:Rwo82fHd
>>67
um.. I heard there is a stickler amongst asian militaries that their weapons are just home made imitations of western weapons (ak47, m16) and they idolise the Israeli arms industry as a result. Though firearms have pretty much reached their peak, there isn't much else you can do excpet make gun look more tacticool.
Believing that guns can be controlled is the fallacy that makes most gun control arguments completely irrelevant. Guns cannot, in fact, be controlled, in precisely the same way drugs cannot. We have over 5,000 miles of porous borders between Mexico and Canada. Guns will find their way into the hands of those who want them regardless of how much money we pour into stopping the traffic.
Now, you can argue for enforcing background checks and proper gun education, but controlling firearms...pretty fucking impossible.
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sumarugatu2007-04-18 14:12 ID:Dvu+bpYr
now that i have the right thread...
an opinion has no right or wrong answer, its just an opinion.
fyi. this is david i am feeling less audacious so i will settle down. But guns will come through just like trafficked drugs. though it will retard the use of firearms due to the amount of time it will take to get the weapons to the east and west coasts. and the north. unless you have guns being shipped over seas. but if they put alot of money into stopping controband they would put usv's (unmanned surface vehicles)by the coasts to take out all of the unregistered incoming vessels.
i will be replying under the name sumarugatu from now on.
>>69
Guns are not addictive. If they where banned, only people who really needed guns (criminals) would think it worthwhile to get them. Yet, if there were are lesser amount of guns in society, the criminals would also need fewer guns (knifes would suffice for stickups for example) and gun related deaths would decrease accordingly. You see how this is the nightmare scenario for the gun industry, which is why they and their lapdogs (the NRA) recite spurious statistics to claim the opposite. But remember, guns are not addictive, there is not really that big of black market for them because of that and everything that implies. Countries with strict gun laws and long borders (sweden) have still very few gun related deaths. So u phail agian, sir.
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Anonymous2007-04-19 11:11 ID:sVWAcvHa
Everyone knows guns are serious business, just a like a car. They also ensure the maximum security a person can have short of hiring armed guards or living in a police state. A complete ban on guns is ridiculous and I am fearful to watch as other western countries slowly sink into increased crime and tyranny due to their illogical handgun bans. At the very least we have gun licenses and permit people over the age of 35 or in the police or military to purchase firearms.
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Anonymous2007-04-19 13:11 ID:rkQcRf1r
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