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Stop ignoring parts of my argument. If you didn't ignore...
"Libertarian ideas are not part of a complex political movement, their only purpose is to eliminate and prevent tyranny."
You would realise people who claim to be libertarian but don't adhere to fundamental libertarian principles such as free speech and represetantive government then they are not libertarians.
Stalin esnured everyone was equal, but these principles did nothing to stop him from starving and executing 20 millions people.
Communism makes great propoganda aswell, for the last time I never deny the inability of libertarianism to turn the universe into heaven overnight.
Read this 50 times.
"Libertarian ideas are not part of a complex political movement, their only purpose is to eliminate and prevent tyranny."
"Libertarian ideas are not part of a complex political movement, their only purpose is to eliminate and prevent tyranny."
"Libertarian ideas are not part of a complex political movement, their only purpose is to eliminate and prevent tyranny."
The principles of free speech and representative government cannot be used by a tyrant to get into power. Sometime somewhere a corrupt element of a democracy will misuse liberty as an excuse to act like an ashole, but compare this with communism where the ruler can act like assholes all they want without criticism (which incidentally you are not being executed for since you live in the US and not North KOrea) and you see my point.
When you look at what liberty fails to do, also look at what communism fails to do. When you look at what communism has done, look at what liberty has done.
Also don't ignore my arguments. Before you even thought about my argument the fact that I criticised communims had you brand me an evil capitalist. Not everyone who criticises communism is from the CATO institute or an evil capitalist who wants to exploit the proletariat. I think someone who believes Marx invented justice gives me enough reason to tell them to gb2 North Korea. Don't you?
"As long as you continue to abide by the principles of liberty and justice you can be communist, socialist or stalinist for all I care."
If I were an evil capitalist why would I say that? Why would I be encouraging people to be socialist as long as they do not interefere with the safe guards against tyranny? Not only am I correct, I have given a superior means to achieve communism or socialism than violent bloody revolution which would inevitably lead to another tyranny as has occurred in history 100s of times with 100s of different ideals. Libertarinism isn't one of these ideals because...
"Libertarian ideas are not part of a complex political movement, their only purpose is to eliminate and prevent tyranny."
"Libertarian ideas are not part of a complex political movement, their only purpose is to eliminate and prevent tyranny."
"Libertarian ideas are not part of a complex political movement, their only purpose is to eliminate and prevent tyranny."