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Guilty Until Proven Innocent?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 14:13

Random Sobriety Checks/Drug Testing.. more unconstitutional violations of civil liberties, courtesy of millions of emotional mothers (http://www.madd.org/madd_programs/1229).  Guilty until proven innocent?

Woman arrested at a Sobriety Checkpoint.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29AK3Iw01rQ

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."  The 4th Amendment of the Bill of Rights

How can this get more plain? Apparently, even the fucking supreme court agrees.
http://www.progress.org/drc44.htm

Here's some guy on youtube complaining about it.  Some of you might find this interesting.  If not, just ignore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-YKOupojas

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 14:22

>>1  MADD is just like the million mom march.  A bunch of freedom hating fascists who won't be happy until your guns are banned and your liberties trashed.  Don't trust emotion stricken parents to make big decisions about government policy.  I'm rather sure a lot of the people (especially at MADD) would like to ban alcohol all together.  Fucking fascists. 

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 14:34

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=gHjB9PcVL2w
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=YIFqYVAOosM
    http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/011907Parry.shtml

    In one of the most chilling public statements ever made by a U.S. Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales questioned whether the U.S. Constitution grants habeas corpus rights of a fair trial to every American.

...
While Gonzales’s statement has a measure of quibbling precision to it, his logic is troubling because it would suggest that many other fundamental rights that Americans hold dear also don’t exist because the Constitution often spells out those rights in the negative.

--
You GUTLESS faggots don't deserve any rights. If any of you had the courage to stand behind your freedoms, this latino wouldn't be where he is today, the Attorney General, speaking and claiming how americans have no rights. Is this what the republicans stand for?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 15:03

>>2
Agreed, MADD is the worse
No one fucking cares if your kid died, just because your kid died, got raped, or died from a overdose doesn't mean you should take away rights from people who are practical and smart.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 17:07

>>4
Fuckin signed.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 17:10

>>3
"Is this what the republicans stand for?"

This isn't want 'republicans' stand for, this is what George W.  Bush stands for.  Granted, a lot of those in the republican party are backing him right now, but not all of them.  Ron Paul is a republican, and he pwns.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 17:19

>>4
Don't forget MADD embezzled so much money that was recently exposed. MADD becomes an anti-alcohol feminist group... not a anti drunk driving group...

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 17:33

>>3
Vote him out and do it from rooftops.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 17:50

The police can take down gangs pimping 12 year olds using heroine without the need for totalitarian policies. By doing their jobs properly.

Why aren't the soccer moms angry at lazy/corrupt cops? Someone's obviously managed to seriously de-rail logic.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 18:08

>>9
Because they are stupid shits who don't give a shit about anything but the security of themselves and their families.  Sadly, most people seem to be this way, more or less.  They don't seem to hold any higher values, such as liberty or freedom.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-24 18:56

>>10
Perfectly stated.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-25 20:03

lol

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