War on IRAQ a waste of money and people?

After doing some reserch, I found out that it costs around $200,000.00 in order to maintain a batalion in IRAQ for about a day. and the number of solders that died in the IRAQ "War" is about equal to the number that died on Sept.11. Is it really worth it to "liberate" the people in IRAQ? Since after a country's government collapses there tends to be a lot of problems >COUGH-Russia-COUGH<

first of all, there is no such thing as wasting people, because people are worthless in the big picture

yes,its a huge waste of money, and America has the strongest, most technological advance, best trained military, only China comes close to our army. So if they came back to fight us, we will rape those towelheads for all their worth.

Yes, it is a small war that costs a buttload of money and we have gotten ourselves into an unwinnable position (who knew you couldn't force Democracy on people??)

best trained military

The US has the strongest and most technologically advanced. It's not the best trained though, not by a long shot.

The thing was designed for warfare against the USSR, which means meatgrinder. What's the point investing in a few highly-skilled troops if they'll be dead shortly anyway?

I like this way Anonymous thinks- but it is a pretty will trained army against what the Iraqis have tho

>and the number of solders that died in the IRAQ "War" is about equal to the number that died on Sept.11.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Everybody knows that.

>Is it really worth it to "liberate" the people in IRAQ?

Our intention was never to liberate the Iraqi people. If it was, we'd be going around invading places like Turkmenistan and Belarus.

>Since after a country's government collapses there tends to be a lot of problems

What problems? Outside of a puppet government in Baghdad, Iraq will suffer warlordism, and won't be a threat to American interests for centuries. Other countries have learned how dangerous it is to talk about trading oil on the Euro instead of the dollar. Iraq's oil production is controlled by foreign interests, so that the people can feel good about having a reliable supply and oil companies can enjoy increased profits when they want to limit production. The rest of the world knows that America's promises of wars of aggression, torture, and manipulation of the people should be taken seriously.

Mission Accomplished.

Those 655,000 people had to die because the Qur'an is worse than the Bibbel (although Christians have matured beyond the Bibbel in ways Wusslims won't ween off the Qur'an) and Saddam started to trade the oil in Euros rather than dollars. Also - IX XI IX XI IX XI NEVER AGAIN IX XI IX XI IX XI NEVER AGAIN IX XI IX XI IX XI NEVER AGAIN IX XI IX XI IX XI NEVER AGAIN IX XI IX XI IX XI NEVER AGAIN IX XI IX XI IX XI NEVER AGAIN FALLING COUPLE FALLING COUPLE NEVER AGAIN NEVER FORGET

>>7
Who are you blaming again? It is the communists fault for impeding the spread of libertarianism after ww2. Blame them and their socialist puppets.

>>8
Wut?

OP - Yes, ridiculous waste.  The war A) did nothing to actually fight terrorism and B) merely confirmed Arab/Islamic suspicions of American hegemony and imperial intentions.  Now we're stuck with an Iraq that will never truly have control over its interior, which will now host pockets of terrorist camps in a manner not unlike Afghanistan pre-9/11.  Kudos to the administration of just about every single President for understanding nothing about the Middle East.  Double Kudos to Reagan for winning the Cold War at the cost of proliferating weapons and American hatred across the region.

in b4 vietnam redux

>>10
The Vietnam/Iraq analogy isn't that bad as long as you know where its limits are.  Calling Iraq a 2nd Vietnam is an appropriate metaphor in highlighting the important foreign policy similarities, the shared domestic devisiveness, and particularly the lack of understanding exhibited by the war presidents.  In scope, execution, and particulars, the parallel obviously ends.

Iraq is the new Vietnam. And another waste of taxpayers' money.

Going to Iraq was quite stupid, and I can see no way America or the world will benefit from the war. And it's a waste of money and soldiers. Let the towelheads kill each other till they're all gone, the world will be better for it.

im a liberal and i say we should totally withdraw our troops from Iraq and impeach Bush.

im a bad troll and i grossly simplify the arguments of poorly definied political ideologies and misrepresent their views by pretending that the dumbass major party politicians i see on tv are representative of any sort of ideology whatsoever.

Going to Iraq and fighting it like a bunch of pussies was a huge mistake and a waist of money. Pulling out is a bigger waist of money. Paths that have been taken and might be taken (Pulling out) is liberal doing.

I am not republican.

Iraq is going to end up in shambles like it already is now. Leave and save some lives, more and more people are dying and its for absolutely nothing.

Its not for nothing you retarded ass muncher. Thats what your propoganda is telling you. The problem is that the US military is fighting with its hands behind its back.

At least we aren't killing other white people like that mistake called WWII.

I'm tired of the relativist peaceniks who reckon that every US decision is bad or unneccesary by default. At the same time I find it sickening that every US decision is either ignored or rationalized away by neo-liberals and conservatives.

"Terror in Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua etc.? Well... United Fruit and, um, US interests and the enlightenment and I mean... Um. A LOT of people died under marxist regimes."

Then again, France still owes Haiti money so it should just shut the fuck up period.

I actually support *A* war on terror, but not *ANY* war on terror. I don't believe that the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq were executed or designed in a way that obligates any western nation to allocate resources to them. If that make me a wishy-washy post-modern Chomsky-reading latte-sipping Weeds-watching dhimmicrat EUnuck self-hating sufferer of small balls and white liberal guilt then so be it. Mark Steyn is correct in saying that America-bashing is often hypocritical and cowardly but while he was making cracks at crazy muslims, Max Cleland and the sushi-munching "I'll do the dishes, honey."-weaklings that try to appoint activist judges to prevent a ban on gay marriage his beloved muscleman in the whitehouse was fucking up American prospects and possibilities in the entire middle east. He put faith in the war on terror, looked away while it was being poorly executed and now those that say "enough is enough" are the morons who can't see the truth? Get bent.

>>18 : "The problem is that the US military is fighting with its hands behind its back."

Technically, you're right, but there's absolutely no other way to fight the war at this point.  So >>17 is right when he says its a lost cause.  I'm not sure just what you were going for in your comment, but if you meant that our rules of engagement are too light-handed, we have no choice: the more heavy-handed we are, the more the Iraqis and the Arab world will resist.  It's lose-lose for us.  Not enough pressure, and we don't get what we want.  Too much pressure, and the situation becomes that much more uncontrollable; violence would be WORSE, not better, and our Arab allies could and would put a stop to the war by forcing us out.

>>21 "Too much pressure, and the situation becomes that much more uncontrollable; violence would be WORSE, not better, and our Arab allies could and would put a stop to the war by forcing us out."

I think another issue is that the pressure has been dispersed so poorly that US actions seem devoid of any consideration of the American people. Only American companies were allowed to profit from the 'reconstruction' process, the company that is building the embassy in Baghdad treats its workers like slaves and the military strategy was poor.

600 k plus people. 3200 soldiers who trusted the executive to deploy them in a way that would protect their homeland. It just isn't worth it by now.

Deploy new machines that kill any hostle threat. Obviously this will eliminate any human wastage...

But I suppose not, send in the troops.

>>19
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