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Maddening Political tests

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-17 12:31

So guys, I got fascist on the Euro political spectrum thing and yet I don't want habeas corpus suspended and shit like that. Actually I dont believe government should interfere in anyone's life, so I dont get how I got that result. Someone plz explain it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-17 14:50

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-17 15:18

Well I got liberal on that one. Although I think the results are probably skewed towards libertarian answers, especially since around 33% of people clocked in as libertarian according to the page.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-17 20:18

Of course, most Libertarians are a younger generation.

The older generation is less techno-literate, and might be less prone to taking senseless tests.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-17 21:48

Alot of liberals-moderates I meet and talk to are actually libertarians without the official label. I think people are just afraid of 3rd parties (thanks green party!) and don’t give them much consideration. Another challenge libertarian’s face is getting over the false image most people associate libertarians with, mainly strict Randroids. I swear that stupid jew has hurt libertarians more then any other person in history, but in the end I am willing to bet we will have a libertarian government before I die; republicans and democrats are starting to fail hard.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-19 12:11

>>5
"Another challenge libertarian’s face is getting over the false image most people associate libertarians with, mainly strict Randroids. I swear that stupid jew has hurt libertarians more then any other person in history,"

Rand despised the libertarian party, fyi.  I can't recall the exact page or book, but one time referred to them as something like a bunch of worthless hippies. 

"but in the end I am willing to bet we will have a libertarian government before I die; republicans and democrats are starting to fail hard."

I agree that republicans and democrats are starting to fail hard (starting to? more like have been I'd say).  However, there are so many people (Xel comes to mind) who stupidly advocate voting for main party candidates even though they *say* they would prefer libertarians.

Once these idiots realize that their individual vote isn't going to sway the election, maybe they will come to their senses and just vote for their favorite candidate instead of this lesser of two evils bullshit.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-19 12:11

>>4 Yep.

Name: Xel 2007-01-19 12:56

>>6 "However, there are so many people (Xel comes to mind) who stupidly advocate voting for main party candidates even though they *say* they would prefer libertarians."If I had to choose between Bush (49.5% in the pneultimate poll), Gore (49.7 % in that same poll) and some libertarian I wouldn't take the fucking risk.

Call me a fascist or a sell-out then. The Approval of some grumpy 4channer isn't really a priority for me. 

Name: Xel 2007-01-19 12:59

Let me specify my position - if it is a close race between a good canidate and a bad candidate I am not spending my vote on some "edgy, outspoken, angry" libertarian candidate. If it is a shoe-in for one candidate I will make a statement by voting for a libertarian.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-19 14:05

>>6
Yea I know she did, but that doesn’t change the image most people associate libertarians with. Rand to most people is the libertarian spokesperson, when it should be Friedman and Nozick.

And Rand only hated libertarians because they didn’t embrace her philosophy


 In defense of Xel, I am a libertarian but have NEVER voted libertarian, why? Because libertarian candidates, with a few exceptions, usually suck. We need more viable candidates if we hope to get any power; im not about to vote for some dimwitted edgy fucktard just because we share a few common ideas.

Name: Xel 2007-01-19 14:47

>>10 "And Rand only hated libertarians because they didn’t embrace her philosophy" That would explain her vitriol and frustration. That, and because her boytoy rejected her when her übermensch matriarch veneer started to crack. Which in turn explains why all her female characters were epitomes of western esthetic templates.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-19 14:52

>>8
"If I had to choose between Bush (49.5% in the pneultimate poll), Gore (49.7 % in that same poll) and some libertarian I wouldn't take the fucking risk."

There IS NO FUCKING RISK.  If you think there is, you are a retard.  What is the likelyhood that your single vote will decide the election? I rank it right up there with the chance that I'll die on a coast to coast airplane trip - it is not a concern.  In a presidential election that is like what you describe, even a tiny percentage worth of difference between presidential candidates amounts to thousands upon thousands of votes.  Your single vote is NOT going to decide the election, even in the situation you described.  You have absolutely no reason not to vote for whatever candidate is your absolute favorite, without exception.

>>9
"Let me specify my position - if it is a close race between a good canidate and a bad candidate I am not spending my vote on some "edgy, outspoken, angry" libertarian candidate. If it is a shoe-in for one candidate I will make a statement by voting for a libertarian."

In my state (michigan), our last senate democrat beat the republican by something close to a million fucking votes.  The win margins of candidates in elections are so fucking wide, if you vote for a dem/repub because of some lesser of two evils bullshit, you really are an asshat.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-19 14:56

>>10
"In defense of Xel, I am a libertarian but have NEVER voted libertarian, why? Because libertarian candidates, with a few exceptions, usually suck. We need more viable candidates if we hope to get any power; im not about to vote for some dimwitted edgy fucktard just because we share a few common ideas."

And you think that some demoshit or republicunt is better? Even the shittiest libertarian is preferable to the typical democrat/republican.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-19 15:02

>>11
Exactly. And yes she had some very volatile personal flaws to accompany her philosophical flaws. David Kelly and Nathaniel Bandon saw them coming a mile away.

In the long run, I argue, she has damaged the party. When people dismiss Rand they also dismiss libertarianism, and may never again give it credence.

Name: Xel 2007-01-19 15:15

"What is the likelyhood that your single vote will decide the election?" Are you really this irrational or am I having a nightmare?
"I rank it right up there with the chance that I'll die on a coast to coast airplane trip - it is not a concern" Never before has a possibility been of less concern to me.
"You have absolutely no reason not to vote for whatever candidate is your absolute favorite, without exception." One reason - the possibility of a christianist in the white house.

"In my state (michigan), our last senate democrat beat the republican by something close to a million fucking votes.  The win margins of candidates in elections are so fucking wide, if you vote for a dem/repub because of some lesser of two evils bullshit, you really are an asshat." That situation is not analoguous to the condition I posited. *TU* est un... Ânechapeau? You are not making this easy for me...  
>>13 "Even the shittiest libertarian is preferable to the typical democrat/republican." Ah, a blacl/white presumption based on unfounded intrinsicalities. I have to succumb and lick your feet now.

"When people dismiss Rand they also dismiss libertarianism, and may never again give it credence." Most objectivists won't deal with libertarians anyway. But their acidic klaxoning and mighty rethoric deals blows to the virtue of minarchism and freedom.


Name: Anonymous 2007-01-19 15:32

>>15
"Are you really this irrational or am I having a nightmare?"

Are YOU really this irrational? Your vote will not sway the election.
http://www.slate.com/id/2107240/

"One reason - the possibility of a christianist in the white house."

Sigh.  What an idiot.  The chances of your vote swaying the election because you voted for a major party are right up there with the chances that you could win the lottery several times in a row.  The smart thing to do is either not vote, or at the very fucking least vote for your favorite candidate just to show support (support vote).  Your whole idea that your voting for a major party to make sure some other guy you don't like doesn't win is completely full of shit.  Even in the 2000 and 2004 elections, some of the closest elections in the history of the USA, your individual vote would not have meant jack shit.  These  two elections were about as close to a 50/50 split as you can get, yet even then, your voting for a main party or not wouldn't have changed a thing in terms of the victor.
http://www.slate.com/id/2107240/

"That situation is not analoguous to the condition I posited. *TU* est un... Ânechapeau? You are not making this easy for me..."

See above.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-19 16:06

These quizzes are bullshit. I know I'm a Republican, but this stupid quiz always says that I'm a facist.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-20 3:52

"I know I'm a Republican"

Probably not

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