4chan tends to have the flawed mindset that science has the ability to explain everything. First, science cannot explain anything 100%, since it is merely a likely theory of the phenomenon. Furthermore, science is constantly used for political economic warfare by both parties, both sides citing different scientists of differing opinions. Science cannot tell you the 'truth.' It can only tell you what the outcome of its flawed experiments are.
Furthermore, who is to say that the "ability" to explain anything is worthwhile? All it will do is create endless debates over the real truth that science is seeking, with foolish people citing one or two studies as ultimate truth, when they may be flawed and skewed beyond belief. The other side will cite studies to "prove" its own opinion. By the time science solves any problem definitively, it is far too late, just as it will be too late when global warming eats us alive.
I like the part where you do exactly what you were bitching about in the last sentence. Very entertaining.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 13:23
>>1
How dare you question science?!!
You're probably one of those crazy religious fanatics who believes the world was created in 7 days. GET OFF MY INTERNETS!!!1
What can science do? For starters, I guess, stop being funded by corporate interests, and explain and publish its studies in a format that normal people can understand. Right now there is a huge gulf between what scientists can see in them and what normal people, even those politically invested, can get out of them. More than likely, it will just come down to Study X says this. Study Y says the exact opposite, and the public will not know anything beyond that of the two studies.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 14:19
so instead of researching we should just NOT try to understand anything, thumbs up anynWHERE IS SARAH CONNOR
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Anonymous2007-01-10 15:07
>>1 First, science cannot explain anything 100%, since it is merely a likely theory of the phenomenon.
This is why we should turn to religion for answers amirite?
Of course, politics SHOULD stay out of science, but the only thing that talks is money, so somehow we need to take the money out of politics (lol)
No, but what else is there outside of LOGICALLY COMING TO CONCLUSIONS?
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Anonymous2007-01-10 15:28
Science is flawed. If it were to be fixed, it could be helpful. Sadly, the people inside it will not change, because, for the most part, they live in their labs and don't care if they affect the outside world.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 16:16
Science is not flawed, its just all you redneck retards that are to stupid to understand it. Quantum physics is not invalid just because i dont understand 99,99% of it, it just means i have to study MOAR.
And so what if sciense is used in political debates. That is actually an improvment, though a better understanding of statistics would help the idiots interpretations.
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I think you are full of fail, global warming needs more studying in my opinion,we don't know if this is a climate change or global warming
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Anonymous2007-01-10 17:01
If it were to be fixed, it could be helpful.
Wowee, I guess all that medicine, traveling to space, and the machine you're currently typing on are imaginary.
Science isn't useful. No sir bob!
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Anonymous2007-01-10 17:44
Inventors made compooters, not scientists<---SCIENTISTS ARE INVENTORS?
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Anonymous2007-01-10 17:47
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Inventors use principles discovered by scientists.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 18:16
>>17
Which is why windowpanes, invented in the 13th century, are flat like the earth.
You're trying to tell me, without advances in science, that we could build computers, fly airplanes, create nukes, and basically have everything we have today? You're an idiot. Or a troll.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 18:48
>>14
Global warming IS climate change and there IS a trend now towards gloglobal warming. The question is if its because of humans or just part of the climate systems natural variation (which most scientists believe it is not). But just because scientists believe this dont mean that they stop studying the subject, thats not how it works.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 19:39
>>19
Science should not be. It should be something different and better, not something that's financed by the corporations and is impossible for the general public to understand or evaluate. The fathoms of unnecessary complexity due to meaningless jargon and indescipherable languages created for fields when you could just explain the phenomenon in everyday language instead.
Science isn't complex because it's paid for by business. It's complex because the world is complex. If the world was simple, we would have everything figured out by now.
No one said there was a causal relationship between those two complaints. It is not complex because the world is complex. It is complex because scientists have created their own sublanguage which they use and only their closed circles have access to without years of training, thus the public cannot evaluate the validity of a study, because it will make no sense to them. If the study was created using plain language, this would not be a problem.
Do you understand that the language they create is meant to better explain it to themselves and others, and not to confuse laymen? Yes, there are some silly confusing terms in scientific jargon, but thats mostly due differences in international and cultural standards, not because scientists make up new words to confuse you. You're just mad you don't understand complex physics, amirite?
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Anonymous2007-01-10 21:17
I never tried to understand complex physics. Just one day I looked in some psychology book and it had a lot of weird symbols that I had never seen before accompanied by numbers and made no sense.
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Anonymous2007-01-10 21:20
Here is a beautiful example of what it looked like, if 4chan can display this crap: Җע׃׃ 68 ֱט 34 ң ֱ
Anyway, the citizenry cannot read studies because its their own fault that they're dumb. Thus, we will never escape popular opinion quagmires and we're all doomed.
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Anonymous2007-01-11 12:15
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Yeah I did that and I perfectly understand Җע׃׃ 68 ֱט 34 ң ֱ now!
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Anonymous2007-01-11 12:29
>>1
Science is the only way to determine the truth other than pure luck and luck is luck because it's far and few between. So for whatever reason you don't like it, we'd be worse off if we ditched science.
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Anonymous2007-01-11 12:58
>>31
The whole point of it was science needs reformed.
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Anonymous2007-01-11 13:00
>>31
Science cannot tell you the 'truth.' It can only tell you what the outcome of its flawed experiments are.
>>Science is the only way to determine the truth other than pure luck and luck is luck because it's far and few between.
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Anonymous2007-01-11 18:15
Science >>>>> guessing
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Anonymous2007-01-11 18:48
Science is not better than guessing. Science is funded by the corporations. This means that it will be manipulated into an outcome that is against the general public's interests. It will not bring truth, only falsehood.
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Anonymous2007-01-11 19:33
>>39
Stop using the internets! Its full of science!
Oh? You think science isn't responsible for the sturdy architecture? Science isn't responsible for the handy little water pressure coming out of your faucet? Science doesn't make your lightbulbs turn on?
Yeah, and those "houses" were just mud bricks or caves or whatever else they could find lying on the ground.
But then again, what is science for, anyway? It's not like it cures diseases, advances transportation and communication, raises standards of living. You know what, you're right. Science can go to hell for all I care. Now excuse me as I run to my thermodynamically engineered refrigerator and grab myself a nice, cold glass of completely science free glass of orange juice.
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Anonymous2007-01-12 2:22
For the most part, this thread is railing against theoretical science like global warming, not practical science.
Global Warming isn't a practical science? You mean we WON'T die if we don't figure out what's causing it, and what's going to happen if it continues. What a relief.
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Anonymous2007-01-12 3:03
>>52
Except that there's no definitive proof that can convince the whole of America that it exists or to do anything about it. Because science is flawed.
There's no "definitive" proof that would convince the whole of America that the earth is round either. Does that mean if I started sailing off into the Atlantic that I'll fall off at the edge of the world? I think they call that Britain over there. Or maybe you don't believe in Europe. Maybe science was wrong all along. I think you're on to something there.
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Anonymous2007-01-12 8:51
>>53
You are flawed. Go see a doctor, might be lupus in the head.
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Anonymous2007-01-12 11:32
>>55
Having homosexual thoughts increases the likely hood of your brain generating the AIDS virus and making you full of AIDS.
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College libertarian2007-01-12 11:36
Like, the market will come up with a miracle because it will need one in 15 years. Oh, and I bought this totally rad book about... left-wing fascists and how the world is held up by a dozen dozen sexy people who invented a perpetuum mobile and stuff.
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Anonymous2007-01-12 12:30
>>57
Superconductor. Vacuum. Etc... I don't see how it can make people ruler of the world or anything though.
...Wait a minute. Someone broke the laws of physics? Screw ruler of the world, they are Gods!
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Anonymous2007-01-12 13:44
>>59
No one broke the laws of physics... If a human finds a way to break the known laws of known physics it is usually because they have found a contradiction that proves there is something we do not know about physics.
Lol, stupidity density extra high in this thread (and yeah, i mean you who are to lazy to have an informed opinion about science, the ones in whos heads superconductivity can be achieved because of the vacuum)...(fuck im a total nerd)
You fucking creationists are DUMBASSES. Why? You assholes didn't even have a system of writing until like 993,000 years after I made you shitheads. And the minute I tell someone what really happened, they write down the WRONG shit because all they want to do is act like my fuckin' pimp and sleep with all the other twelve tribe's attractive female cousins. Fuck you assholes. Enjoy your global warming.