Are you trying to "win"?

With all of your respective ideologies flying around, I've had to ask myself if you're actually trying to "win". Do you have an understanding that we are one human race of people? Is competition really needed when we, as humans, have escaped such things as animalistic instnict with logic and justice?

Do you have ethics or morals that are absolute, or do they only apply to you and yours? I'm not talking about "Let's be one World"- I am merely questioning whether you all feel more fulfilled by treating others negatively for whatever reason or if you'd rather help everyone and anyone you can.

It's not a directive, but a question.

Aum Shantih Shantih Shantih

>>47
"Either way, at the time it was generally understood that the States could secede under the Constitution, and they did."

You're joking, right? Sorry, you've just lost all credibility, that statement is complete bullshit.

"It's similar to Iran having a military base in the US. It would not be tolerated today, and it was not tolerated in 1861."

No, it's not at all. Iran was never part of the US and never seceded from the US. That is a completely false analogy. It would be like part of Iran saying that it wasn't part of Iran anymore, including a strategic Iranian military base full of Iranian soldiers, and then the rebels expecting those soldiers to just hand it over because "Hey, they said it was theirs now!"

"I've yet not seen evidence to the contrary, most seem silent on the issues brought up by the source I provided. Google "Lincoln Sumter""

Yeah, everybody knows Google is the best source for historiographical interpretation. Pick up a book or two on the causes of the civil war. The causes of the Civil War is one of the most complicated topics in United States history. There have been books and books and essays and essays written about it. Just saying "Lincoln did it" is a gross oversimplification even if what you are saying is true, which I doubt it is.