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Are you trying to "win"?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-08 8:57

With all of your respective ideologies flying around, I've had to ask myself if you're actually trying to "win". Do you have an understanding that we are one human race of people? Is competition really needed when we, as humans, have escaped such things as animalistic instnict with logic and justice?

Do you have ethics or morals that are absolute, or do they only apply to you and yours? I'm not talking about "Let's be one World"- I am merely questioning whether you all feel more fulfilled by treating others negatively for whatever reason or if you'd rather help everyone and anyone you can.

It's not a directive, but a question.

Aum Shantih Shantih Shantih

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 0:21

>>39

This is >>37.

Do you have a source that can rebut the claims? Perhaps my source is incorrect but I've yet not seen evidence to the contrary, most seem silent on the issues brought up by the source I provided. Google "Lincoln Sumter" (don't use quotes in the search). The first relevant result is biased in the US's favor, and quite obviously so, as evidenced by the unnecessary negative adjectives in refrence to the south and unnecessary positive descriptions of the north. Wikipedia, silent on the issue, the third is the source provided, the fourth is a lesson plan for a History class which mentions the contention without rebutting it, the next discusses Lincoln influences in the decision. There's one about buying Lincoln cars in Sumter, that was excluded in the order.

Either way, at the time it was generally understood that the States could secede under the Constitution, and they did. Fort Sumter was a Federal fort in the CSA. It's similar to Iran having a military base in the US. It would not be tolerated today, and it was not tolerated in 1861. The Confederates gave those in Fort Sumter a chance to leave without violence, but they refused, and instead attempted to resupply it. If we told Iran to abandon a base in the US and Iran said "NO U" and tried to send ships to supply it's base, don't you think the US would fire upon the Irani base? Technically, it could be said that the US started the conflict because it fired the first shots at Iran, but it would be silly to believe it was not provoked by Iran. It was the same thing with the CSA and the USA back in 1861. History is written by the winner. The Union won, so obviously it's going to glorify it's victories and mask it's mistakes.

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