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My beliefs.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-03 0:16

I am an ultra-extreme communist fascist, I am more extreme than hitler concerning my fascist beliefs and more extreme than Stalin concerning my communist beliefs. My idea of a political system has been described as "Insane beyond comprehension and equally terrifying.".

Any questions?

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-03 1:09

And what about Islamo-Facism ?

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-03 1:12

ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS:

1. Abortion?
2. Freedom of speech?
3. Economy type?
4. Multiparty system?
5. Election methods?
6. Role of family?
7. Role of business?
8. Role of religion?
9. How does your government operate?
10. Preamble to your core document establishing your nation's identity.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-03 5:07

>>1
If I am your ultra-extreme communist fascist leader, would you be happy to be my bitch playtoy?

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-03 5:19

"I am more extreme than hitler concerning my fascist beliefs and more extreme than Stalin concerning my communist beliefs"

So, genocide for all non-arian races, the remainder being under iron fisted state rule? A pure-blood goose-stepping nation?

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-04 9:49

>>3
1. Only women who's job it is the breed can have children. They are not allowed to abort. Other women who get pregnant must abort so they can get back to their work. Superior women are often occupied with work, so their eggs are fertilised in a petri dish and implanted into inferior women.
2. Everyone is allowed freedom of speech, however everyone will be educated from infancy to realise how perfect the nation is and if they complain it means they were not educated properly and will have to be indoctrinated again.
3. The state is run like 1 big coorporation, the more useful your work the more you get paid, everyone can buy shares in this coorporation.
4. If you have the desirable genetic traits and/or education you will compete in the running of the nation as a civil servant. You can then apply your vision in the sectors you have control over. The civil servants most effective at this will be promoted and their vision will spread.
5. You can buy and sell your shares whenever you want to support and protest the state's policies, however the less shares you have the less influence you have and most likely the luxuries you spend your money on, the bureau you exchange your moeny for foreign currency at and the bank you store it in will be owned by the state.
6. The inferior women who give birth breast feed the baby, feed it dietary supplements and take it to be immunised against diseases ranging from measles to smallpox. When it is weened it is taken to the indoctrination and training camps. Their traits are scientifically analysed in early infancy to determine which profession they should follow. Other factors such as the changing economy are taken into account during their education. Excessively stupid will be taught purely how to read, write and indoctrinated by the state and sent to work as a labourer as early as 10 years old. Most will finnish between the ages of 12 and 14 and begin an apprenticeship or military training. The intelligent will finnish between the ages of 16-18 and join the bottom rungs of their careers as scientists, mathematicians, social scientists, military officers and law enforcement officers. The gifted may well finnish their education at the age of 24 after years of intense studying and health maintaining activities at grand universities set in areas of outstanding natural beauty.
7. The business elite live in opulent splendour, but must work hard to ensure the sector they control is as efficient as possible or they lose money or are replaced by someone from the lower ranks. Other civil servants also must work hard to ensure their position, but must also compete with other civil servants out of fear of losing some authority and the prospects of being given more authority.
8. The state religion will be amoral, but with the emphasis on a few dogmas which it is founded on. A person's worth is measured by 2 things, the value of their services in increasing the power of the state and the amount of money they own. A person who buys shares or gives back money to the state is considerred ethical, a person who spends the money on luxuries is considerred unethical, spending money on the necessities needed to live is considerred neutral, but a person who spends less money on necessities is considerred to be more valuable.
9. The state is ruled by an autarch who is constantly distracted by the running of the country in order to serve an oligarchy, the oligarchs in turn must work efficiently to serve their lessers. The hierarchy is not a set structure with different oligarchs holding different amounts of power depending on their authority, shares and merits.
10. The nation's purpose is to gain power, to sink it's roots into every crevisse possible to gain as much as possible. It's purpose is not to gain as much power as quickly as possible, simply to push civilisation as far as it can go. The nation thus has a planetary view of it's objectives, both to dominate the entire planet and to begin shifting civilisation off the planet earth. As a result the nation emphasises it's total GDP and science.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-04 9:58

"The hierarchy is not a set structure with different oligarchs holding different amounts of power depending on their authority, shares and merits."

should be

The hierarchy is not a set structure, but with different oligarchs holding different amounts of power depending on their authority, shares and merits.

For example if the top 50 are oligarchs the one designated autarch may well be much poorer than the other 49, but be given authority due to his/her superior merits.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-04 10:05

"It's purpose is not to gain as much power as quickly as possible, simply to push civilisation as far as it can go."

This was a little too brief. The objectives are based on long term growth. Since there is potential for civilisation to expand beyond earth and a lot of power could be acquired, the people in positions of authority must sacrifice the total amount of power they could gain in their life time for the increased possibility of gaining this huge amount of power.

Take the Christmas Islands, the population depended on the amount of boats there are. However forests had to be maintained to allow a continuous supply of wood. An inferior govenrment would cut down all the trees for a short term boost in population, however once the tree population was depleted and the present boats rotted there would not be enough wood to sustain such a huge popilation. This government would have the long term goal of creating laws to ensure the maximum supply of wood without any risk of future depletion of that supply.

Name: ac 2006-11-04 17:52

Wow, a thread consistantly made of fail from top to bottom.

Awesome, guys.

Keep up the great work! :D

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-05 5:02

>>9
thx

Do you have anything to say about my ideal government?

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-05 5:59

Scary as shit, but if you *promised* at the end of it all, when we had the Star Trek replicator and everything could be produced freely, that the government would lapse it into a completely free utopian paradise where everything was free and nobody had to work to maintain the system, except for basic law enforcement and research into new ways of making everything cheaper.

Promise?

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-05 12:43

>>11
P...pwomis?

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-05 12:46

>>11
The purpose is to gain as much power as possible. You would have replicators, but only be allowed the privilege of using it to make cakes as a reward. It would be sort of like the borg I guess.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-05 16:00

>>1
>>6
I came.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-05 18:18

How on earth can you be an "ultra extreme Communist Fascist"?
I suggest you first read the Doctrine of Fascism, and then pick up the Communist Manifesto.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-05 18:21

>>15
You are too stupid and inferior to comprehend the merits of both political lines of thought. You would perform manual labour for your entire life and die and this would be scientifically proven to be good as your useless. You know this and it tears you apart, this is why you "disagree" with my beliefs. In truth you are selfish and think your deserve more than you can possibly give in return.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-05 21:55

>>16
Wow, what an easy way out of actually explaining anything!
I do understand the "pros" of each system, however one simply cannot be an extreme version of both.
Also, fail for saying you're "more extreme than Stalin" when it comes to Communism.

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Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 10:44

>>17
"How on earth can you be an "ultra extreme Communist Fascist"?"
This was self-evident, therefore you lack the intelligence to comprehend the argument. Therefore I am right.

Everyone has a limit to the amount they can understand and how much time it takes them to understand something. Your limit is very low.

I am more extreme than Stalin.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 10:45

Oh and Stalin was a Communist, he did everything by the book and became a dictator of a very large powerful country and lived in oplent splendour until he died of excess. As is the point of Communism.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 12:57

EXTREEEEEEME DICTATOR!!!!

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 14:35

>>19

And you continue to refuse to actually explain yourself...
I'm aware Communism and Fascism are not polar opposites, but having a system which is meant for the state to "dissolve" and have a global revolution, and one which is first and foremost based around the state's longevity, and Nationalism is impossible.
You can be a Leftist Fascist, in which you focus more on the class struggle, and the state is made to serve the people more, but you can't be a "Communist Fascist".

Also, ANOTHER FAIL for using Hitler as your EXTREME views on Fascism.
Hitler made his "25 Points", Mussolini made "The Fascist Manifesto" and "The Doctrine of Fascism". MUSSOLINI is THE example of Fascism, while Hitler made a spin-off of Mussolini's   Fascism.

Now please, quit trying to act like you're XXXTREME, or knowledgable on the subjects of Fascism or Communism.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 14:37

>>20

The point of the dictator in Communism is to set up everything so that the dissolving of the state can go as smoothly as possible.

Also, Stalin was a State Capitalist, not a Communist.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 14:39

>>23

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Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 17:07

RLY.
The difference between Communism and Anarchism is that one goes about organzing everything with a leader(Communism), and one just wants the state government to just immediately go away.
The Anarchist view, in my opinion, is unrealistic, and would immediately end up in chaos.
While Communism has a very realistic chance of people fucking up and doing what Stalin did(set up a police state, and just have the government control the means of production), it's more reasonable than Anarchy.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 18:07

>>22
I've already explained. I cannot simplify it for you any further.

Me: 1+1=2
You: Waa waa waa too complicated
Me: You're an idiot.
You: So you refuse to explain how 1+1 can equal 2! Therefore 1+1≠2 ahahahaa ahahahaa im so smrt
Me: Well actually I could draw a diagram showing 2 apples and explain how to count to 2, but I can't be botherred so either ask questions or stop whining.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 18:11

>>23
The point of the dictator in Communism is to [insert bullshit here].

The point of communism is for the dictator and his thugs to dominate millions of people and use them to live in opulent splendour whilst ousting competition under the various populist guises communism employs.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-06 22:41

>>27
I thought that was the point of capitalism.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-07 1:45

>>26
What you described in the third post was nothing more than a spinoff of a super Authoritarian National Socialism, even saying it resembles National Socialism is a stretch.
 
It was more of an "Authoritarian for the sake of being Authoritarian" type state.

You: "A+B=AB" Where A is a Nationalist Totalitarian system which is focused on the continuation of the state, and B is a system which is designed so that the state will not be needed, and will eventually cease to exist.
*Then post which just talks about ridiculous Authoritarian beliefs*
Me: How can you be both A and B when both have very different goals, and you cannot attain both goals?
You: YOU'RE SOOOO DUMB, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING! YOU'RE DUMB! STUPID STUPID STUPID!
Me: That still didn't explain anything.
You: DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMMMMBBBB!!!

Name: 2blu2scru 2006-11-07 5:54

have you noticed that you spend the majority of the time arguing with yourself?

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-07 8:18

>>29
Sentient beings have at least some impulse to analyse thought itself, are you incapable of this?

I told you to ask questions. Deduction is a perfect method of reasonning, find what you think are contradictions and ask questions.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-07 8:21

Metacognition is a wonderful thing.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-15 11:18

I believe its Miller time.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-15 13:20

>>1
become an hero

Name: rawr 2006-11-15 14:45

i love chicken

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-15 14:51

i love me dem fried chickenz

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