Black vs. White

56% of black violent crime is committed against Whites

 2.6% of White violent crime is against blacks

"No. Crimes don't need to be committed."

LOL. You mean like war crimes, right? Crimes of survival aren't crimes. Case in point: US Foreign Policy.

 "No. They were oppressed for many years, but now have equal rights, and are free to do whatever they want. And they built themselves a culture based on crime. Also, you might want to read up on what 'status quo' means."

500 years. Equal rights were given barely 60 years ago. Didn't really get enforced (instituationalized) until the 80's and 90's. If you notice it was right around this time that whites started getting interested in the lives of poor blacks. You keep saying "they built themselves a culture based on crime" as if all the blacks in America got together one night and voted on it. Far too simplistic, don't you think? Maybe even a litle niave? The people that decided "blacks build a culture on crime" were whites. Google "Jim Crow".

"Your theory is wrong. You presuppose white racism, and blame everything on it."

No. Your interpetation of the theory is wrong. I don't blame everything on white racism. But I do recognise that as being one of the prime factors or motavators. That's what makes racial disparity so insideous; it's ability to 'at certain times' seem non-existant.

"You've got a point there. I'm also quite pissed by stuff like that blacks don't need to score as high as whites to be let into universities, or that companies must recruit a number of blacks even if there are no black applicants who can do the job properly. I'm all for abolishing these practises."

"No. That is subjective criticism. Objective criticism is based on facts, and not on feelings.

So you care more about what's happening to a minority of white people now; that what has historically and habitually happened to blacks until about 30 years ago (and what is still happening)? Listen it goes like this: If you look deep in your heart and ask yourself if you prefer whites to blacks- that makes you racist. No amount of semantical engineering (which for you, passes as "debate") on any issue is going to make it otherwise. If you, already prefer whites to blacks, choose to address white disparies before black disparities----then your view point can't be trusted. There is no "objectivity". All the white status quo has done thus far is attempt objective criticism; when they are clearly incapable of looking at blacks objectively.

"That's bullshit. You can't shrug off problems with 'you don't have the right to complain'. Both sides can say that, and nobody's problems will be solved if they refuse to discuss them."

But whites are perpetuating "the problem". No one is refusing to discuss them, you're just refusing to listen.