Christians hate atheists for their freedom?

It makes sense if you think about it.  Christians have this all-powerful authoritarian figure telling them how to live out their lives.  Not only do you get punished horribly for stepping out of line, but this authoritarian is omni-present and will always catch you.  There is literally no freedom to do anything.  The most amazing thing is they don't realize this, or don't admit it.  This God does a better job than Big Brother could ever possibly dream.  But deep down in their hearts, they know they are being watched and controlled and it makes them angry to see those of us who are free.  Thus, they lash out at us.  Please do no fault them for it though, imagine how quickly you would become like that if you knew there was someone watching and condeming you every time you masturbate.

I think we should help our christian brethren escape this oppressive fascist called God.

>>73
wow, you understand that there is no reason to believe in god, and you still do. congratulations on your ignorance.

>>79
Being a FAGGOT isn't immoral, the republicans are just wrong about that. You liberals really are machiavellian geniuses, but I can see right through it thanks to George Orwell pointing out the existence and nature of doublespeak mindfuck crimethink.

You are attempting to mix up 2 things.
1: The idea of morality.
2: An example of where republican moral values are incorrect.

Spoiler: People get things wrong, this is because they are wrong. If you make a mistake when calculating something using the equation E=MC^2, it doesn't mean E=MC^2 is invalid it means you made a mistake. If you can't make this distinction admit this so everyone knows you are stupid.

With this distinction in mind it is obvious that the conservatives were not applying morality, but misapplying it, which is why they are wrong.

Liberals have a moral code which consists of equality etc etc.. They just don't say that it is a moral code because they enjoy re-naming old definitions and passing them off as their own so they can claim the credit.

Being a FAGGOT  is not immoral.
Being a pedophile is immoral.

I don't give a fuck what the republicans think and how much they wipe their ass with the idea of morality, morality as a concept of necessity is still valid.

>>81 wow, you understand that there is no reason to believe in god, and you still do. congratulations on your ignorance.


Just shut the fuck up, okay? You'll be doing the world a favor. No tangible proof =/= no reason, idiot. I have a lot of reasons why I believe in God, but I am not about to try and argue that, because that is the fucking stupidest thing to argue. Learn to respect other people's beliefs and opinions and you won't come off as such an arrogant asshole.

>>83
well what are your reasons then

>>84
"but I am not about to try and argue that, because that is the fucking stupidest thing to argue."

>>85
So you believe in god because you think needing a reason to believe in something is a stupid thing to argue?

God is a dickhead.

>>83 "No tangible proof"
HOLY SHIT

>>83 "I have a lot of reasons why I believe in God, but I am not about to try and argue that(because my reasons are too stupid to post here)"

WE WIN

>>82
Being a FAGGOT  is not immoral.
Being a pedophile is immoral.

thanks, morals relative to the society they exist in. no +/- is assigned to actions. it is all a matter of people's individual perspectives.

>>86
>>88
No. Gross assumptions and putting words in my mouth does not make you win. I think arguing gods existence is a fucking stupid thing to argue. you believe what you believe, i believe what i believe no one is going to change their opinion. i respect atheism, why cant you respect my beliefs instead of acting like you are superior?

If you really want to know so bad, I believe in a higher power because
1. I think in order for the universe to be created, there must be a constant. something outside the laws of physics and space and time which could in turn create the universe via big bang.
2. Humanity, conscious thought, and life in general is too significant and phenomenal to just be a random occurance (note that I believe in evolution, I believe god created evolution and either had the foresight to set it up so these phenomena would occur or slightly influenced it a certain points to make these happen)

Again, this is stupid to argue. This is my opinion, you won't be able to change it, and I won't be able to change yours. We will never find any tangible proof of a higher power, and we will never prove that there isnt one. In the mean time, why don't we respect what people believe and stop trying to convert one another.

>>90 Matter can be created out of vacuum if the pressure is high enough. Go back to sunday school and stay there. As for human life, complex organs like eyes have been shown to come to existence quite quickly in a non-controlled environment. Look up Dawkins at wikiquote, and feel the burn. We'll agree to disagree is your closing statement. How adorably blunt. This isn't over - I will work every day to push irrational things like religion out of the human psyche. It is a mental virus.

>>91
"Matter can be created out of vacuum if the pressure is high enough."
lol wtf??

Note for fundamentalists: This man doesn't represent science.

>>89
SHUT THE FUCK UP STUPID ASSHOLE

BEING A FAGGOT DOESN'T CAUSE SUFFERRING, RAPING A CHILD DOES, IF ANYONE THINKS OTHERWISE IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MORALS IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING CRAZY

>>92 Do you have a counterclaim or are you just knee-jerking because you've never heard this before?

>>94
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/vacuum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pressure

>>95 Um, the first one says there is no total vacuum; there is no such thing as nothing. The second... I won't say I understand physics to an adequate degree for understanding the article, but I would like if you could pinpoint how these articles rape my claim.

>>95 Give up argueing with the atheists here, they are clearly superior in their mental capacity. Sunday school must be draining all the capacity for complex thought from your brain. Religion is an useless moral code that society no longer needs. Now its nothing more than a bad way to waste a sunday morning.

>>96
>>97
Holy fuck you people are stupid.

>>96
>>97
Serious this is why I hate other atheists, you think anyone who disagrees with you is a fundy, just like religious assholes think anyone who disagrees with them is worshipping stan or whatever. Why don't you take your zarathustra bible, fuck off and go suck some dick.

fucking idiots..

>>Xel, post 2 sentences explaining how vacuum-->matter. no external links, all we want is a fucking clue.

>>90
1. I think in order for the universe to be created, there must be a constant. something outside the laws of physics and space and time which could in turn create the universe via big bang.
- WHY do you think this? What evidence supports this HYPOTHESIS?

2. Humanity, conscious thought, and life in general is too significant and phenomenal to just be a random occurance (note that I believe in evolution, I believe god created evolution and either had the foresight to set it up so these phenomena would occur or slightly influenced it a certain points to make these happen)
- theres "I believe" again. WHY do you think this? What evidence supports this HYPOTHESIS?

www.whywontgodhealamputees.com

Thread ends here.

>>101

No. That's just immature and silly.

Arguing over if God exists or why someone thinks they do or not exist is like arguing over which comic book universe is better (or why one thinks their comic book universe exists).

Why don't you guys just fap and get it over with? Why do you have include the rest of us in your masturbatory escapades? You guys are circle jerkin' around and nothing's getting done; planet is still dying, kids are still getting raped, the wars of tommorrow looking more and more final for all humankind. And you guys instead; having chosen to stand around playing with your genitals.

What a fucking waste all of you are.

have* not "having"  `noyt

LOL you guys actually beleieve a god exists? Obviously that shit was made up to scare the shit out of you, just like Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Its time to grow up :D

>>101
If god solved all our problems, there would be no tests of character to see if we deserve to go to heaven.

I'm not actually a theist I just thought I'd say lol.

Thread begins anew.

If god is all-powerful but does nothing, he is impotent.

>>106
But he has done something, he created the universe.

>>106
It rather, god doesn't have gender.

>>107 No, it created itself. It could and it did. Also, if you are right (you are not) all god did was lay down the gridwork. We don't owe it anything but belief in this act (13.7 billion years ago) and that is that. Assuming it created the universe. It didn't. The bible is irrelevant. There is no medium through which it can conceivably act on materia anyhow. Maybe god is gravity or Plack's constant, it sure as fuck is not a singular, conscious entity.

>>109
Arguing over if God exists or why someone thinks they do or not exist is like arguing over which comic book universe is better (or why one thinks their comic book universe exists).

Why don't you guys just fap and get it over with? Why do you have include the rest of us in your masturbatory escapades? You guys are circle jerkin' around and nothing's getting done; planet is still dying, kids are still getting raped, the wars of tommorrow looking more and more final for all humankind. And you guys instead; having chosen to stand around playing with your genitals.

What a fucking waste all of you are.

>>109
I lied, I don't believe in god. I assumes god doesn't exist due to the lack of evidence. I'm contending you because you are an idealistic atheist who spouts catchprases instead of actually botherring to think about the subject of existence.
>>110 Is right sort of. A more logical definition would be simply that crazy religious people are extremists and will not listen to reason, decent religious people know that there is little or not evidence of god, but live by the illogical dogma because so much of their personality depends on it. You aren't going to change these people with rational debate, so just state the facts and go off and do something else.

http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com/

I'll stand by that site as it is rational, and not a petty child's arguement. You guys should really check it out.
<sacasm>
Now if you'll excuse, I'm missing out on much gential playing/fapping/masturbating to do.
</sarcasm>

Cheers,

~Kumori

Holy fuck, why does everyone deal in fucking extreemes. There is no hard proof that god does exist, but there is no hard proof that he/she/it does not exist. Why can't you all stop this useless bitching and let the thread die?

Hey, there is no evidence that there is no god, so why not be agnostic? Oh yes, atheists are just as dogamtic and ostensible as religious people! Weeeell, there is no real evidence against fairies, is there? Have we disproven the existence of fairies? Do we really have to care, isn't it easier to live as if fairies are non-existstent because we have better things to do? No, because then we are dogmatic and then we are not showing respect to people who believe in fairies. Got it.

thread over!

>>91
"Matter can be created out of vacuum if the pressure is high enough. Go back to sunday school and stay there. As for human life, complex organs like eyes have been shown to come to existence quite quickly in a non-controlled environment. Look up Dawkins at wikiquote, and feel the burn. We'll agree to disagree is your closing statement. How adorably blunt. This isn't over - I will work every day to push irrational things like religion out of the human psyche. It is a mental virus."

Can you even fucking read?! I believe in science, I believe in evolution, I just believe that there is a god behind it all. Until science can come up with definitive proof that there is no higher power, I will believe in one. I used to have respect for you Xel, but I can't respect intolerance, and I can't respect self-righteous assholes trying to push their beliefs on other (converting).

>>109
"No, it created itself. It could and it did. Also, if you are right (you are not) all god did was lay down the gridwork. We don't owe it anything but belief in this act (13.7 billion years ago) and that is that. Assuming it created the universe. It didn't. The bible is irrelevant. There is no medium through which it can conceivably act on materia anyhow. Maybe god is gravity or Plack's constant, it sure as fuck is not a singular, conscious entity."

More condescending bullshit, more baseless assertions. For one thing,  something that can create the fucking universe would be able to cover its tracks so people don't know it exists. It's not "sure" and it's definitely not "sure as fuck" that god doesn't exist, this is your personal belief and you are presenting it as fact like a pretentious asshole.
>>106
"If god is all-powerful but does nothing, he is impotent." Read up on Deism.

>>100
"- theres "I believe" again. WHY do you think this? What evidence supports this HYPOTHESIS" You have to believe in everything, science, god, gravity, addition, whatever. I stated my personal beliefs and I don't intend to make anyone else think like me, it is just what I think. There is no hard evidence for or against a god, so its all about what you believe.

>>99
"Serious this is why I hate other atheists, you think anyone who disagrees with you is a fundy, just like religious assholes think anyone who disagrees with them is worshipping stan or whatever. Why don't you take your zarathustra bible, fuck off and go suck some dick.

fucking idiots.."

THANK YOU, here is one person I can repsect in this thread.

>>102
"Arguing over if God exists or why someone thinks they do or not exist is like arguing over which comic book universe is better (or why one thinks their comic book universe exists)."

Right, that's what I've been saying, but people ITT somehow think god is a provable/disprovable thing. It's not and it never will be.

>>114
I am agnostic, deist/agnostic. I don't think my beliefs are the absolute truth, of course I could be wrong. Thinking there is no chance you are wrong on one of the biggest, most unanswerable question on earth is just silly. And you're using the flying spaghetti argument, and if a church of fairies pops up I will respect their beliefs. I won't agree with it but I will respect it.

Remember: Xel's countrymen frequently commit suicide as a passtime.

>>117 Any sense of happiness/contentment and/or a system of ethics that needs a supernatural (and therefore dubious) dimension for leverage is illegitimate. Christianity is not compatible with humanity unless you pluck out the good parts and throw away the rest. I don't care about the people on this thread, it's christianism that should be purged from existence.

>>118

I thought that when I was 17, as well.

Then you go first.