It makes sense if you think about it. Christians have this all-powerful authoritarian figure telling them how to live out their lives. Not only do you get punished horribly for stepping out of line, but this authoritarian is omni-present and will always catch you. There is literally no freedom to do anything. The most amazing thing is they don't realize this, or don't admit it. This God does a better job than Big Brother could ever possibly dream. But deep down in their hearts, they know they are being watched and controlled and it makes them angry to see those of us who are free. Thus, they lash out at us. Please do no fault them for it though, imagine how quickly you would become like that if you knew there was someone watching and condeming you every time you masturbate.
I think we should help our christian brethren escape this oppressive fascist called God.
Protect Iraqi people from danger but not his own people???
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Anonymous2006-09-20 4:07
spawn more overlords
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Anonymous2006-09-20 4:09
Christians? What about the muslims?
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Anonymous2006-09-20 4:32
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almost all christians i've met claims they do not hate atheists but pities them for not knowing and submitting to god. i am a christian and i think it's stupid to hold back one's bodily urges like these people, thus i fap all day for all i care. a supreme being like god should know better and understand us mere humans right?
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Anonymous2006-09-20 6:00
I think god wants us to understand the nature of the universe in our own way and would prefer that we do it in a rational manner. So stupid annoying atheists who run around being fucktards go to hell, but then again so do fundy christians who convince impoverished nigerians to go without condoms etc..
If god exists it would not make a universe with little evidence of it's existence and create a large number of very shady religions who's following would inevitably consist mainly of people indoctrinated from birth, then send people to hell for not choosing the correct religion. I don't think god would care if people are stupid or which religion they have either. I think god would just want people to at least face the right direction.
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Anonymous2006-09-20 9:04
Almost all Christians I've met (hint: I don't live in some retarded place like United States of Jesusland) don't care if someone is atheist. They seem to think religion is a personal matter, and is the business of an individual alone.
Seriously, who cares if you're atheist or Christian? Unless you're in the US, which seems to have collected all the religious fuckjobs.
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VanillaTruffle2006-09-20 10:59
Religions are a thing of fear and power.
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AppleStrudel2006-09-20 14:12
Religions are not a thing of fear and power.
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Xel2006-09-20 14:48
>>9>>8 Newsflash babies; it can be both and in various degrees. Islam < Hinduism < Christianity < Buddhism < Atheism is techically less than Agnosticism. What we can say is that absolutely none of our findings regarding the absolute basics of reality, mass and all such jazz... Is that we can't find anything with sentience or a place where superpowerful beings can hide, nor a medium with which they can influence reality. As such, fuck the supernatural. I see christianity as one of the factors that made the west such a relaitively progressive and interesting place, but why do we not have a reality-based system of ethics and law today, when we should know better? I blame governments, relativism, authoritarians and a lack of secularism for that. If we honestly need a hippie-jew to die on a cross to give us good ethics we might as well have a nuclear war and go out with a badaboom.
Why should christians hate or fear atheists if their almighty god will protect them? If they are indeed correct in their teaching then they (the christians) wont have to deal with us (the atheists) for very long since we earn ourselves eternal damntaion by denying the existance of god. When you look at it logically 100 years, which is a very long time to live, is rather insignifigant when you compare it to all time. So I ask my religous friends to tolerate our existance in this realm since you wont have to deal with us in the next. Christians do not hate us, they envy us for our ability to do whatever we want without fear of persecution from a smitefull god.
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Anonymous2006-09-22 12:25
Good Christians are opposed to hate, envy and fear but being human we often fail in our duty to God and our fellow man. Christians do not envy you but pity you as a child without a Father.
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Xel2006-09-22 12:34
>>15 "Christians do not envy you but pity you as a child without a Father." I prefer non-abusive parents, sir. Pity from a religious person is actually complementing.
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Anonymous2006-09-22 13:05
Xel speaks like a true sociopathic communist. Sentience is proven. I think and perceive therefore I am sentient. If someone else suffers you might not feel it, but it is a very deep and personal tragedy to another sentient being and it matters. Coming from a supposed socialist who wants to help the poor, denial of sentience is pretty hypocritical since it takes the whole point out of being selfless.
Stop desperately trying to mix up superstition with sentience. Stop it with all this other marxist bullshit you spout on other threads aswell. I don't see what the point is anyway, Marxism only attracts the very stupid, you won't have much luck making and educated democracy into a communism.
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VanillaTruffle2006-09-22 13:58
A God that allowed atrocities to be commited in the Bible is no God of mine.
"And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation. And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also. And there came out a fire from the Lord, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense." (Numbers 16:32-35)
"And there came out against them Zerah the Ethiopian with an host of a thousand thousand, and three hundred chariots..." (II Chronicles 14:9) ... So the Lord smote the Ethiopians before Asa, and before Judah; and the Ethiopians fled. (II Chronicles 14:12)
"And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)
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"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)
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"Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)
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"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)
"And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:10-11)
"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord. A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord." (Deuteronomy 23:1-2)
"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)
"Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean." (Leviticus 12:2)
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"But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days." (Leviticus 12:5)
"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)
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"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)
"Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go." (Judges 19:24-25)
"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
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Xel2006-09-22 15:08
>>17 Um, I am of the firm belief that every human emotion is more important to that human being than the universe provided it is strong enough. Human existence is not "sacred" but rather to be secured and treated like a purpose in itself. If one person hurts another out of sheer selfishness I ambeing hurt as well. If a person is discriminated, I am as well. I consider every crime against a human to be a crime against me and I can assure you that per se I'm three times the "christian" Benjamin Franklin-wannabes like you can aspire to be.
"Stop desperately trying to mix up superstition with sentience." There are facts and then there is opinion. The being of a large shaper and trickster hiding in some superstring, influencing our dimension, is unproven. Therefore opinion. But there is a god, and he is human, he is all of you, and he is yours. And I do not approve of the current iteration of Iahve. So I am my own god now, and I seek to destroy any potential usurpers.
"Marxism only attracts the very stupid, you won't have much luck making and educated democracy into a communism." You're mother drank like that girl from the "Smack my Bitch Up" video while she was cartin' you. Or maybe I have given the wrong impression here. Either way, I am as happy as can be. >>18 That is from the Old Testament, which is generally considered embarassing allegory. But there are those who use it, seek to realize it's theories and if passive christians don't want to prevent that they are enemies. They have responsibility for their religion, I'm just defending myself if I believe it can harm me or others. Which it is. Make no mistake, I am no islamist-apologetic, but deriously - fuck evangelicas and christianists. In the eyes.
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Xel2006-09-22 15:30
>>19 The christian ethics allowed the Western world to become what it is, I think. But. If you find a piece of chocolate in a pile of dung, do you eat it? But. Christianity should be judged by its contemporary fruits, not its past successes nor by its potential. Today we shouldn't have to need it. Today it is an ausive parent; it is loving, it leads us somewhat in the general direction but we get scarred, violent, traumatized and confused. I like Christianity because unlike Islam it has flexed a little to accomodate the actual human nature. But we shouldn't need it today. It is embarassing and a failure. No more imaginary friends. And as for people who compare atheists to marxists... Someone should break your pubic bones.
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Anonymous2006-09-22 15:45
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I hope you are enjoying your mind AIDS from all that fucking it's experienced. Last time I checked I was not omnipotent, I'm not a god and there is nothing to suggest there is one so whatever. Also no, when someone is hurt or discriminated against you are not aswell, you are not a perfect human being and the sooner you realise that the sooner you can start working on sometyhing productive instead of making excuses and deluding yourself into a false sense of rightseousness.
You hate religion right? Well just take a look at religious people mocking the jerry springer show as if it proves what people end up like without religion. They are too deluded to realise that the fact that people are discussing their problems in the open instead of making excuses for them is evident that they are more likely to SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS instead of living in a deluded fantasy world.
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Anonymous2006-09-23 0:31
It sounds like the hate, envy and fear is coming from the ones attacking Christians. Is this what you believe in?
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Anonymous2006-09-23 0:54
>>22 why does every critisism of relegion suddenly become an attack on it?
>>21 "Last time I checked I was not omnipotent, I'm not a god and there is nothing to suggest there is one so whatever.! I can shape the universe in palpable, actual ways. Dog cannot. Unless he commemnces some smoting, I win.
"Also no, when someone is hurt or discriminated against you are not aswell, you are not a perfect human being and the sooner you realise that the sooner you can start working on sometyhing productive instead of making excuses and deluding yourself into a false sense of rightseousness." The universalizability princip. If one human being is mistreated, then so can I. Making sure that people are safe from unjust treatment is in my interest. My own productivity will be a step in my happiness, but others happiness or at least well-being is another.
"You hate religion right?" I find it to be superfluous and cyclical, much like government. Hate is not the word for it. It's more like "pragmatic desire to see gone".
"They are too deluded to realise that the fact that people are discussing their problems in the open instead of making excuses for them is evident that they are more likely to SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS instead of living in a deluded fantasy world." I see pixels imitating words on my screen, but they mean nothing to me. What do you mean anyway?
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Xel2006-09-23 3:53
>>22 "It sounds like the hate, envy and fear is coming from the ones attacking Christians. Is this what you believe in?" If a person can *motivate* acerbity and vitriol in her criticism...
"Faith is the single greatest weapon ever created, for its ability to silence and keep under control any questioning of authority." --Wilhelm Nietzsche
Thinking about religeon poisoning the USA even more than it already does just makes me angry, so i'll simply leave everyone to think about the above statement.
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Anonymous2006-09-24 4:45
KIKES
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Xel2006-09-24 5:55
>>31 Then why do you perpetuate the dumb usage of the word "faggot" as a pejorative? Think about it, cocksucker, faggot, queer et al. - they're all used as negatives and stuff like that shapes people in invisible ways.
>>42 stop trolling faggot. go to imageboards to do that shit.
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Anonymous2006-09-27 0:58
guys, athiests, please dont generalize christians. i know tons of us suck, but a lot of us are pretty rad. basically, i believe in a higher power, but i dont let it influence my life pretty much at all. god is a scientist, science ftw, religion doesnt determine what i think in right and wrong, etc.