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A Look at the Radical Left

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-28 15:23

Just how radical are they?

"I am suggesting a nearly complete rejection of gender roles and the ensuing demands for cosmetical and behavioral conformity."

Essentially, do away with our current concept of family.

Consider this person's views on abortion: 



"kill kill kill chop chop chop vacuum vacuum vacuum silentshout silentshout silentshout dumplings dumplings dumplings."

"Abort more foetuses. As many as women deem neccesary. And then when we've sucked the stem cells out of them, put them in water balloons and throw them at the teary-eyed waste of human components that try to harm the practice. Death death death vacuum vacuum vacuum."


It isn't hard to not have abortions.  Just use some fucking birth control.  There's so many ways to do it, condoms are just one. 

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-30 22:48


"First of all, the last thing this world needs is more people."

Sure.  Use birth control methods then instead of killing fetuses.  There's plenty of them, and plenty of ways to do it that won't effect "feeling" or sensations involved in sex.  Using multiple methods at once easilly reduces your chances of pregnancy down WELL below one percent. 

"Secondly, the reason that murder is outlawed is a social stability reason, not a cruelty reason."

No, it's because of a moral reason:  killing other human beings is wrong.  It's a live and let live thing.  You are free to live and be free so long as you respect other human beings' right to do the same.  That's why murder is illegal.

"If murder was legal, society would fall apart, and therefore the majority agrees to give up the right of murder for greater stability of society."

No.  The reason murder is illegal is because it is wrong.  See above..  There is no such thing as the right to murder.  There is no such thing as the right to violate another individual's right.  The law and the government are there to protect individuals and their rights.

"It's called a social contract, look it up."

This has nothing to do with the reasons for which abortions/murder should be outlawed. 

"Will outlawing abortions grant greater societal stability?  Absolutely not."

This has nothing to do with the reasons abortion/murder should be outlawed. 

"Will allowing them possibly grant it?
Maybe.  But, that doesn't matter, since we shouldn't give up rights without good reason."

That's right.  And that's precisely why I defend the rights of developing human beings.  I'll agree with you the mother's rights to her life should come first--abortion when medically necessary, or when rape has been committed is acceptable.  Senseless and unnecessary abortions, on the other hand, should be outlawed. 

"How would it grant greater stability?  Well, think about it.  Who would get an abortion?  People who don't want kids.  Are those people going to make good parents?"

Maybe they should have thought about that before they made the decision to have sex and not take the actions necessary to keep from getting pregnant.  (birth control)

"Are they going to raise good kids?  If the kids get put in orphanages, they're not exactly going to be better-off."

Adoption is becoming a more and more feasible solution nowadays.  Anyways, while this is a valid point, people should simply not be allowed to just have an abortion whenever they damn well please.  Abortions should be something that are closely regulated and monitored, and only given out when medically necessary, when the woman has been raped, or in another reasonable situation.  Again, the woman's rights come before the rights of the developing being, but the developing being shouldn't be harmed unless it is necessary. 

"Also, stability is lost when abortions are outlawed?  Why is that?"

Likely because the children raised become dipshits due to shitty parenting. 

The solution to crime is to proliferate firearms, and to toughen up on punishment for crimes.  Rehabilitation might be a feasible solution as well, I don't know. 

"It's the same loss of stability that came with the outlawing of alchohol.  If they're illigal, the only way to get them is to get an illegal one.  That's right, back-alley coat-hanger."

It's a different situation nowadays.  One should ask the question - why IS the woman currently pregnant? Were there possibly some methods of preventing the pregnancy had she not wanted to have the baby? I think what it boils down to is that some people just don't want to accept the responsibility for their actions.  Birth control is pretty easy to get.  If they were going to have sex - that's just fine, but since it's her body, and she knows what will happen if she doesn't use birth control, she should have used birth control to prevent the pregnancy.  Using multiple methods of contraception at the same time can easilly and without hassle, expense, or risk, reduce the risk of pregnancy to well under 1%.

"So, in order to keep our society stable, as well as for many moral reasons already stated, abortions should be legal."

Your reasons previously stated have been refuted.  To keep our society stable, we should just toughen up our sentencing. 

The solution of the right-wing to crime has been proven too many times to be the right one. 

Tougher sentencing, gun rights, pro self defense legislation, and gun proliferation are the solution to crime. 

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