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"Even so, protection by the government is possession by the government."
No it isn't.
"And an outlaw of abortion would be precisely that, possession of another persons body by the state."
No, it would be protection of a person's body (and thus their life) from harm by other individuals. This is the proper function of government.
The proper function of government is to protect our rights to life, liberty, and property.
"This is immoral in a democracy, even if that possession takes place in the name of an innocent life."
Are you saying that laws against murder are immoral?
"Plus further claims that the responsibility is the 100% the woman's has lead me to believe that your views on the sexual relationships of men and women, have been perverted by whatever value system that has been instilled into you from an early age."
It is pretty simple. The final decisions involved in the process of becoming pregnant, which are necessary to become pregnant, are all the woman's.
Here is where you chime in: "but the man is contributing too!", which is true, but the fact is is that the man is doing something to the WOMAN's body, WITH HER CONSENT.
Both are well aware from the start that the consequences of this action, if birth control is not used, will effect the woman, and not the man.
The woman has the ultimate say in whether birth control is used, and is the only one that has the responsibility to make sure it is used (or a condom or something), because it is quite simply her body that will be effected, and will be producing the fetus.
Since it is HER body, it is clearly not the responsibility of the MAN to care for it, or, more specifically, to provide methods of contraception for her. It is her body, and thus she must handle the situation, not the man.
"These are the root values of lack of woman's rights and the cause of sexual relationships that result in unwanted pregnancies."
Firstly, women have equal rights today in the United States.
Nextly, the cause of unwanted pregnancies is that the woman is not taking responsibility for her own body. If she was, she would obviously have used some method of contraception before she had sex, and thus would not need an abortion in the first place.
Abortions are not necessary, especially now that contraceptives are widely availible, and are not prohibitively expensive. Moreover, the fetus should have the right to continue to develop, and to be born.
"The idea that the man isn't responsible, despite providing half of the genetic material for the baby is so fucking laughable that I'm convinced that you've stepped out of the 50's."
The man is not responsible even though he provided half the genetic material because it is the woman's body, not his. Since it is the woman's body, it is her responsibility to take care of it, not his. Thus, it is her responsibility to make sure contraceptives are used to prevent unwanted pregnancies, since if an unwanted pregnancy occurs, it is her, and her body that will be effected, not the man and his.