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The second paragraph is actually what I am after. I don't believe that the suffering is inconsequential or deniable, but the very idea that this suffering (that occurs in the minority of the cases) is sufficient to ban abortions is dumb.
Exactly. At this point, it would be like trying to ban all poverty, all war, all strife, all choice (towards whatever is "good" or "evil" <==== Both subjective) as we know it. Xel, is right. You position is dumb and in a way disingenuine because you're not actually addressing everyone's right to life, just hypothetical baby that, in actuality, we can't really protect until the life is indoctrinated into society.
Even so, protection by the government is possession by the government. And an outlaw of abortion would be precisely that, possession of another persons body by the state. This is immoral in a democracy, even if that possession takes place in the name of an innocent life. That's a hard pill to swallow, but you seem to be doing fine with letting poverty and war happen.
"It'll undo society"! , you scream. Yet, you have zero proof that abortion has ever undone society and the lost of principals you speak of, have historically only served to not eliminate that society completely- but instead have served to create an alternative society. There isn't "one society" that you can protect through banning abortion. Only your own. That is why this matter should be left up to the states. If you want abortion outlaw, talk to your governor. The reason you are against this is because your value system needs the validation of millions of others who feel just as strongly as you do, but don't agree with you. Maybe you know that you're a minority in this thought and this scares you to the point where you're willing to circumvent the entire notion of liberty just to see your world view win out.
Plus, further claims that the responsibility is the 100% the woman's has led me to believe that your views on the sexual relationships of men and women, have been perverted by whatever value system that has been instilled into you from an early age. These are the root values of lack of woman's rights and the cause of sexual relationships that result in unwanted pregnancies. The idea that the man isn't responsible, despite providing half of the genetic material for the baby is so fucking laughable that I'm convinced that you've stepped out of the 50's.