>>581
"Because human rights have nothing to do with brain complexity." Then what is it about, the make-up of the genes or biological prerequisites? If a brain that can be described as human has developed and absorbed some info, it is to be protected at the expense of the mother.
Protected at the expense of the mother? I find that harsh since the mother is more important than the fetus. To protect the fetus at the expense of the mother would be dehumanizing women in favor of something that isn't a human being, more less an animal. Even if the fetus develops some sort of conscious, it's consciousness won't be exactly like a normal human being's. It would be no more conscious than a sea slug.
>>582 I guess I'll try getting here whenever I have the free time. I just got back from vacation with my hubby and we have work to do around the house. I took a quick skim of what happened and I'm impressed with your work, Xel. Where to begin.. Meh, there's nothing I have qualms with, really, I'll just go on whenever Anonymous shows up and if I have the time. And yeah, I'm starting to hate this thread too, I was expecting it to be long dead when I got back.