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Abortion and Women's Rights

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-26 22:10

Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights.  Murder is not a right. 

Name: Xel 2006-08-19 3:49

>>294 even if universalizable isn't a word the comparison is not moot. Humans are what they learn; without the sensory apparati AND relevant cerebral centers cooperating, the foetus is just a cluster of cells, without any uniqueness to it. It's genetic code is brimming with life-giving information, and so are my follicles and skin cells. You creating an extreme situation only raises further questions. Should that dude be alive? Would he choose death himself? Who would take care of him, Mr. "Fuck Child support laws and the nanny state!"? He has experienced more than a foetus and the only important part of him, his brain, is probably functioning still. Do you have any idea how similar we are to animals, or how much of their interior resembles ours? What makes us humans is our brains and what it is given to process. Then there is a true Difference, maybe even soemthing resembling a 'soul'.
You not understanding the analogy with good corporations (majority)/bad corporations (minority) and women who get abortions early enough (majority)/women who get abortions once foetus has developed unique personality (minority) makes me wonder what your mental rigidity has done to your thought processes.
And we are not killing innocents before they commit a crime; we are preventing them from experiencing things that will eventually make them burden to societies, refuting your claim that abortions will lead to civilization's downfall. These children are not determined to commit crimes, but they will be. This doesn't mean that we should forbid poor/slightly unstable people from getting kids (the limits on allowing parenthood are set in stone and should be), it means that we should allow abortions to be an option, because it has a utilitarian effect with all the ethical implications of one scratching oneself.
Perhaps one of the reasons crime is higher in blue states is because of the illegalization of drugs and a higher amount of victimless crimes there. What I do know is that all the red states (save one, I think) do worse economically and get money from the blue states, who could use it more considering the higher crime rate in total. San Fransisco didn't need to get tough on crime or allow guns, but I guess they're a unique case.
>>297 Men of little mental caliber, self-esteem and openness of mind often uses a man's dick as the only defining characteristic. It is predictable, non-threatening and unbelievably sad
>>301 The result isn't always "living" in a critical sense of the word, and the pro-life crowd is the one voting to make sex education worse, harm women's rights and make birth control less common. A bit counter-productive, that.
I love my dick, am not pleased with all feminist rethoric, have never heard of pro-choicers assaulting priests or vandalizing 'family first' organizations (probably because we are slightly better humans overall), believe men and women are more than their sexes and will defend the right to abortions to my last breath if I have to.

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