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"Or are you expecting people to gain responsibility and sufficient information all by themselves?"
If you are going to commit an action, yes, I expect you to be ready to deal with the consequences of that action. At the very least, I'm not going to help you out when you fuck yourself up due to personal irresponsibility.
"Also, I've already made it quite clear that unless a foetus has accumulated the basis of a unique persona, it is no more special than any other cell, and therefore removing it is universalizable."
'Universalizable' isn't a word, firstly. Also, it is not the personality that makes a human being. There is something distinctly special about humanity. If it is entirely personality, then what if a baby was born, put inside a dark room for its entire life, and somehow sustained without ever meeting anyone, doing anything, etc, for the entirety of its existance up until say - age 21. Would killing it be fine with you? There is more to what constitutes a 'human life' than just personal experiances.
"If it wasn't, then me scratching myself or combing my hair would be genocide."
Why do you keep bringing this up? There is obviously a difference between a partially developed human being and a skin or hair cell. Many of these fetuses have all the standard human organs as everyone else has, developed. Abortion is a morally questionable procedure, at best.
"then we may also ban corporations because Coca-Cola and Pepsi are fucking with Kerala."
Abortion, Coca Cola, and Pepsi are obviously entirely different subjects. What Coca Cola does in other countries has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not abortion should be regulated or not.
"Then there is the reduced crime rate that follows the *availability* of abortions,"
Completely redundant. You are talking about killing innocents before they have committed a crime. I thought liberals would be against this kind of thing.. Until an individual actually commits a crime, he is innocent. This 'well they are just going to grow up and become criminals anyway' argument is complete bullshit.
"Oh yes, the red states ban abortions, crime goes up and the more affluent blue states have to pay more into the treasury than they get back"
More conservative areas of the country have lower crime rates than liberal areas, just fyi. Probly has nothing to do with abortion, and more to do with that conservatives are tough on crime, and pro-self defense (lowers crime rates). The liberal gun-control havens of the USA have the highest crime rates, whether they are pro-choice, or not.
"because the white trash get more money than the ghettos."
This has nothing to do with whether or not abortion should be regulated.