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Abortion and Women's Rights

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-26 22:10

Abortion has nothing to do with women's rights.  Murder is not a right. 

Name: Xel 2006-08-18 3:01

>>282 I keep on forgetting that parody always expresses the generalizations of the creator. Thanks for setting me straight honey. Speaking of the casus belli that is birth control... How come the same people you turn to to ban abortions are the ones that fuck up sex education and the sale of birth control? Or are you expecting people to gain responsibility and sufficient information all by themselves? Yes of course you are, that is the basis of your argument. Also, I've already made it quite clear that unless a foetus has accumulated the basis of a unique persona, it is no more special than any other cell, and therefore removing it is universalizable. If it wasn't, then me scratching myself or combing my hair would be genocide. When so many (most) abortions occur when this is not the case or debatable, we pro-choicers are in a better position. If we should ban abortions simply because some women aren't up for the privilege (and the main reasons abortions sommetimes occur after the critical point is because they fear social reprisal, the cost of the practice, the scarcity of 'morning-after pills', scare tactics, vitriol outside clinics, the rising cost of contraceptives and relevant medication, the fact that conservatives make clinics scarce [most women who don't have abortions are poor, thereby continuing the cycle], religious/ethical guilt and all the other things right-wing society and pro-lifers are responsible for) then we may also ban corporations because Coca-Cola and Pepsi are fucking with Kerala. Again. THAT is a fucking analogy right there.
As far as I know you haven't yet regressed to using the "breast-cancer" angle either, but if anyone has then I can refute that. The scientific consensus agrees that this is nothing but scare tactics pro-lifers resort to.
Then there is the reduced crime rate that follows the *availability* of abortions, giving me the utilitarian edge: http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/ResponseToFooteGoetz2006.pdf Oh yes, the red states ban abortions, crime goes up and the more affluent blue states have to pay more into the treasury than they get back (http://angrybear.blogspot.com/2003/05/red-vs_15.html), because the white trash get more money than the ghettos. Like pedophilia, the cycle continues.

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