>>130 "It's really great to know that this is your entire criteria for mass murder. Seriously, it is....I mean, even though I was put up for adoption after my mother decided she didn't want me and didn't really end up commiting any crimes, but.....Still, it's good to know you think that way." We are SO getting to the core of the issue.
"Legislate vaginas? What does that even mean? I don't expect those babies to become government officials, I just expect them to have an opportunity. I'd rather women would just be more careful and decide not to be so stupid with said vaginas. Those "condomless cocks" you talk about for example: If you think guys are so stupid and women so smart and unblemished on this issue, then it only makes sense that they'd be the ones to make sure guys wear condoms. If they choose to risk the size of their euteris by not having protection on either side of the equation, then it's obviously their fault." Hilarity. Men and Women are equally guilty and it's not the man who has to GIVE FUCKING BIRTH. I've said this before- sort out destructive gender differences, then we can talk.
"Thankfully there are still intelligent people in the world. Dumb shits saying it's the man's responsibility... yet claim it's her body. If it's her body, it's HER responsibility to take care of it." It's them man's responsibility and obligation to be a decent intruder.
"The war on drugs isn't a deterrent." Um, isn't the point with any punishment to harm those that are doing the same thing. It was MEANT to be a deterrent (like abortion laws will be to becoming pregnant, in your world) but it just didn't work.
"You're kiddin me right? Most criminals nowadays realize that CP is impotent due to individuals like you who take away the power of state to execute people who execute others. Philosophies such as yours have tainted CPs statistic." Once a again, come and say that when America has a better record for killing people that a bunch of college kids proved innocent. Idiot. DP is actually counter-efffective (probably the liberals fault) and is just a way for the morals n' values folks to extend a hand (voting slip) to the more murderous and undeveloped part of America.
"So you'd rather violent schizophrenics be put in a home that's easily escapable rather than cell where they're liable to not harm anyone? Treatment can only go so far in most case and you can only expect so much from it. It's like trying to raise a wolf you've known all your life that you expect to never bite you." Well, I'm not suggesting that treatment should be carried out in a greenhouse. Stop making strawmen out of everything. Treatment works better and is cheaper, but once again the isolated and quivering families (and the mythological 'utilitarian-libertarians') choose to rid themselves of their society's underside for as long as possible.
"It's really amazing to me that because you feel crime cannot be stopped that we should just stop caring...Of course crime cannot be stopped. But that doesn't mean we should stop trying. I think even you would realize the end result of that." All of these policies have either killed innocents, given the right to murder to the state, destroyed perpetrators of victimless crimes and costs America a lot more than a "bleeding-heart" stance would do. What type of libertarian are you?
"I lived in a terrible neighborhood once upon a time, which was just beginning to open up to drug dealers. Just when people were starting to buy into LSD and crack, a no tolerance policy was enacted and the most consistent drug dealers were forced out AWAY from my younger siblings. So, as you can imagine, the war on drugs "detterent," as you like to call, helped me and my family." As if your neighbourhood is the only front of the crusade on drugs. I wonder what is going to protect your siblings from all the crimes caused by alcohol consumption.
"Do you mean in a certain "class"? Yeah right. America has the most & best rags to riches stories of just about any country. They call this the "land of opportunity" for a fucking reason, you know. Taxes and recent big-government have been getting in the way of economic mobility recently. Certainly, voting for the democraps isn't going to help this." What we have here are a bunch of total right-wingers who have inflicted insane hurt on the economy via misaimed tax cuts and are as we speak completing a war tribunal that could put american citizens in jail without trial. Is this a case against the left? Really? You're stretching so much I can see muscle tissue. The tax cuts have failed, privatization of Soc Sec will fail and the amount of people under the poverty level have risen since Bush took over. This is sad.
"Capital punishment is even up for debate only because of the fact that you are only doing it to proven criminals. Abortion is destruction of an innocent." Uninformed. CP has been carried out on many innocent people over the years, and it does more harm than good.
"I don't think women who are too irresponsible to prevent pregnancy using birth control should be allowed abortions as solutions to their irresponsibility." Your syntaxial skills blow me away. Where did you go to school, Mexico?
>>148 Fail. If you can't allow abortions then you can't allow the DP. I'm all for DP, the states that you use it build up the crime rates in that state and that means more pro-lifers and DP-proponents dead.
>>149 Fail Fail Fail
>>150 "Not if the woman knows it would be wiser not to continue. The male doesn't know everything that's going on with the female's body." Oh holy shit. Are you real or am I having a nightmare?
"So guys can give birth to kids too?" No, which is the entire point here.
"I can see I'm wearing you down now that you're resorting to personal insults. Next time, be sure to type the word "fail" as an addendum to any comment you may have about my childhood. That way, I'll know I've made you have to use your trump card." The issue is that we just don't respect you. I know for a fact that adopted children fare just as well as any other kid. You are the exception that affirms the rule.
"I've already proved that abortion destroys one of the main tenets of our society. And without it, it puts said society in danger of collapse. If abortion is murder (and it is), and murder is against the law, and law was their so we could live in peace with tolerating anti-life problems like murder, and the anathema of murder was exposed of, then we leave our principles of law to die--And this, in turn, leaves our society open to tolerating the downsizing of "unuseful" citizens." Abortion helps society. We're going to see problems in South Dakota now that they are cutting the leaves without tending to the roots. We shall see, of course but I am hoping that they're all going to suffer.
"Holy crap! Are you inferring that a mother or father has a right to kill their kids anytime they want simply because they created them?? Forget zealotry. You're fucking crazy!" You inferred what you wanted to hear you undeveloped shitcrust.