"From Israel with love"

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Israeli girls signing bombs meant for lebanon.

"From Israel with love"

>>40
Fun fact: Suicide bombers are actually the dumbest weapon users.*

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>>41
No, that would be niggers. Go to /k/ and request the nigger war pictures.

>>42
I don't get it, if they want to blow something up they throw a satchel charge with a lit fuse attached, they at least have the idea that even though you risk yourself in war you are more useful if you can fight again tommorrow. Suicide bombing is much stupider because there is no chance of your being able to throw another bomb or shoot a gun again. If your entire life is just 1 explosion when you can easily do more you must be stupid, or just lazy.

>>43
I think the act is more symbolic.  It's saying that what they are doing literally means their life to them - and it draws attention from others. 

>>44

Exactly. It's a physical and psychological attack. The only thing you can do is call the opposition "crazy". But that's just hiding your failure, isn't it? All soldiers die for their causes, regardless if it by the enemies hand or their own. If suicide bombers are "crazy" in that sense, then so are all soldiers.

>>44
It's the lazy way out, proving they are not as zealous as they make out.

>>45
How is it a failure? Can you think of a way to stop ALL suicide bombers? You also missed the point, the point was that they could do more than facilitate 1 explosion. You are not very intelligent. Are you black?

>>46

Actively showing a willingness to die for your cause or country isn't lazy. Are you saying the soldiers in Iraq are lazy? Are you saying the WW2 vets were lazy?

It is a failure to not only recognise that the "terrorists" are actually soldiers, but that you do not have what it takes as a society to deal more of an effective psychological blow  to your enemy. Arabs and Japanese aren't stupid, they understand that there could be more done to facilitate 1 explosion, isn't this why Iran is going after nuclear weaponry?

Finally, it really takes away from your argument when you resort to racial sterotypes. Especially in this case where you are 100% wrong. The reason you feel the way you do about suicide bombers is because you've allowed yourself to be subject to the propaganda of fools, instead of the reality of human conflict.

>>47
I'm not going to fill in the blanks for some dumbass troll.

>>47
Oh ok fine...

They believe they go to paradise by fighting the infidel. Therefore blowing yourself up with the bomb is lazy since they could detonate the bomb remotely and continue to fight, it's the easy way out.

The Japanese didn't have a method of guidingvery large bombs to their targets, bombers would get shot down and or would be completely innaccurate. A large amount of explosives on a fighter plane was the best method of doing this, it was logical. A fuse isn't rocket science, anyone who owns a mining company can get a hold of loads of fuses.

Iran isn't a terrorist state and have little interest in suicide bombing.

Considerring your inability to think things through before slapping your hige lips together I am right about you being stupid at least.

>>49

Why do you keep responding with propaganda? Objectively speaking it really doesn't matter if the person is blowing themselves up for virgins, SUVs, a college education, 1000+ golds, or to become an hero. Soldiers die for causes and countries.

However, the end result of a suicide bomber and reasons for using suicide bombers are psychological. The effects of a suicide bomber are psychological. The suicide bomber and kamakazi pilots are psychological weaponry. Denial of this is pure failure.

>>50
Propoganda? If it's ad nauseum propoganda it should be easy to retort to instead of repeating the argument I've just crushed. I'm not denying any facts whatsoever either, you are putting words in my mouth because you want to avoid debating the point at hand.

One last time, focus your mind entirely on this point, nothing else.

If they are fanatics who believe if they die fighting they go to paradise, they have 2 choices.
1: Die as quickly and as painlessly as possible.
2: Find the best way to do as much for the cause as possible with no consideration for physical hardship.

Option 1 results in them suicide bombing.
Option 2 results in a life of soldiery, planting bombs with fuses instead of going up with them to paradise, taking gun shot wounds and trying to stay alive despite the pain even though death would mean an easy route to paradise, seeing people die but not joining them in paradise, sweating and labouring all day hiding in small holes from the US when if you were a suicide bomber you would be with allah right now etc etc...

Therefore suicide bombing is the easy way out and anyone with more intelligence than you will view islamic extremists as lazy idiots who shirk away from option 2 thus negating the psychological effect.

Since arabs are caucasian they are about the same intelligence as me. Negroes perhaps are awed by the intellectual achievements of suicide bombers, but anyone with an IQ over 85 will not view them so.

>>51

No. Just accept that I don't agree with your premise in the first place and stop perpetuating this endless shitstorm of lose in my direction.

Your argument is completely subjective and doesn't address the reality of warfare- in this case psychological warfare. As adamant as you are about this, it's quite clear that the implications of someone being willing to directly and actively use their life as a weapon for their cause- not only makes you nervous, but it's filled you with such amount of fear that you have no choice but to bring their race, their religion and their culture into this as if it makes a difference.

They are soliders and they die. Just because "HUR HUR, I DINK DATZ st00p1dz LOLZ" doesn't mean it didn't have a psychological on the people attacked. You are living proof that it did.

>>not only makes you nervous, but it's filled you with such amount of fear that you have no choice but to bring their race, their religion and their culture into this as if it makes a difference.

But it does make a difference. The ONLY suicide bombers in the world share(d) the following characteristics:

RACE: ARAB,
RELIGION: ISLAM,
CULTURE: MIDDLE-EASTERN

Most of them were also named Mohammed, but that's merely because muslims are terribly unimaginative.

>>53 We are all perfectly capable of becoming suicide bombers, but I think you realize that. The problem is that neither left nor the right can drop their respective stances on the issue. Terrorism is a destructive, desperate response to direct and/or indirect influence on the lifestyles of muslims. Their antagonistic reaction is human and understandable, but by having their minds permeated with notions of submission to a divine being (in itself an insult to humanity) they are ready to 'justify' their attacks with a supernatural dimension. Terrorism has root causes -actions of benevolence and of imperialistic aggression towards muslim countries- but their reactions are self-righteous and usually involve turning towards western culture rather than the western ideologies that harm them for profit. I could also exemplify how their stagnant position on social issues and secularism has harmed their own interests and wasted countless lives.

>>54
It's not our fault. Quit buying into the Noble Savage idea. Armed and violent conflict between various groups is the natural state of existence as proved by history and few socities have been able to grow beyond it. In terms of relative peacefulness the western civilisation is a huge anomaly, which might not last.

>>53

Kamakazi.

"Your argument is completely subjective and doesn't address the reality of warfare- in this case psychological warfare. As adamant as you are about this, it's quite clear that the implications of someone being willing to directly and actively use their life as a weapon for their cause- not only makes you nervous, but it's filled you with such amount of fear that you have no choice but to bring their race, their religion and their culture into this as if it makes a difference."

Lol??? You call me subjective then say possible the most subjective thing you can think of in order to attack my person?

Suicide bombers if anything decrease the morale of the insurgents who are he real threat by making them question the legitimacy of their cause and make the stupid insurgents more eager to get themsleves killed instead of using their lives to inflict the maximum damage possible. I'm still waiting for you to disprove me. If I were back in Iraq I wouldn't be glad that the suicide bombers were stupid enough to kill themselves with their first shot and I would be more afraid of the professionals who plant more bombs, booby traps and fire more mortars.

>>54
Their government have been fucking them over and blaiming it on the west. Any actual crimes committed by westerners on the middle east are few and far between (we sacrificed lives and billions of $s getting rid of the soviets, taliban and saddam hussein). In 10 years time Iraq will be like Japan or South Korea 10 years after their liberation from tyranny. Just like Fascism and Maoism, people will see that liberty is legitimately not another form of tyranny. It is nothing like any of these ideals, it is an idea philosophically sewn int othe fabric of reality, not just a system of government plucked out of nowhere.

"It's not our fault. Quit buying into the Noble Savage idea." I'm sorry if I expressed myself so poorly that I gave the impression that I did. Yet I feel you responded towards what you felt I wrote. Ah, whatever, I think we could find common ground here, since I am pro-Israel on a fundamental basis.
>>58 I think I must have given of a message I actually did not want. And speaking of crimes a bunch of unneccesary and selfish acts have been made (liquidizing Iraq's quite admirable social system and taking it to odd bank accounts, as was did with the central bank of Haiti). As I've said, any muslim countries with oil or other resources have the historical lessons to doubt the west's hard power, and considering that the current administration was present when Americas soft power topppled Soviet, I think that their current acts are inexplicable. I think Iran making nukes wouldn't even have been an issue if it wasn't for the secret revert of the leftist revolution in Iran, for example.

>>59
It would be less of an issue if their leadership (and not just the prez.) didn't keep repeating that Israel "will soon disappear in a big cloud" (clearly they mean nukes here) and similar.

EVEN IF they're just trolling, and it's far from certain, those people should not have nukes.

>>60 Haven't said that, I am just argumenting that US policy isn't always carried out with a safe future in mind.

This war is one of the dumbest. Lebanon was 50% christian, 50% allah's lovers. They will be 100% allah&Hezbollah's lovers soon.

USA create terrorists in Irak and Israel will create more terrorist is Lebanon.

Israel and USA don't understand whatt's happen. Hezbolah is not Lebanon. Terrorists is not a country like Cuba or CCCP. Terrorists born is poorety and hate. And all USA and Isrel do is CREATE this misery and hate...

Isrel will lose. Because Israel is full of dumb who don't understand this world. They want a "Big Israel", from Nil to Euphrate. They will be nuke;

>>62

Big Isrel nuk are vrry bad amirite?

>>62
no spika engrish?

>>57

Don't know how you misconstrued that statement into "an attack on your person", but whatever. What I'm find hilarious and that you're continuing on with this "prove me wrong" nonsense as if there's anything to "prove". All you have is a point of view, you don't have 100 U.S marines or something agreeing with you.

I don't think the Suicide Bombers or Kamakazi pilots are stupid at all, I do however think that your inability to speak rationally about this speaks volumes of their psychological effect on their enemy.

>>65
Of course suicide bombers make people nervous, but their stupidity and mindless fanaticism makes them astronomically less terrifying than professional guerillas who may well plant 100s of effective bombs and booby traps in their life times instead of blowing themselves up with the first bomb they use in anger. I can't believe how fucking stupid you are, just shut the fuck up. Seriously, I'm doing you a favour by telling you to.

>>66

Fail.

Anger comes no where into the picture, these are calculated psychological assualts. (Do you even know anything about the lives of these bombers?) You think they don't know what one man is really worth? Do you think it even matters when the actions of Israel and US create more terrorists, daily?

Again I repeat: Just because you think "LOLLERS DATS STUPID" doesn't mean the suicide bomber or the kamakazi wasn't or isn't an effective psychological weapon. We're not debating as to how many mans can cause X amount of damage with explosions. We're talking about psychological warfare.

In the future please fail less hard at objectivity.

THX

but their stupidity and mindless fanaticism makes them astronomically less terrifying than professional guerillas

Actually, I find them a lot scarier. That degree of fanaticism is something I cannot relate to; it is an alien mindset. Not only do certain targets become available to them when they do not need to consider avoiding capture, but the question is if you can predict or reason with them at all. You don't quite know the rules they're playing by. Normal people don't fly aircraft into buildings.

Ever meet a lunatic? A real honest-to-god crazy fucker at the market who probably is suffering from violent paranoid schizophrenia? The ones who just stare at you quietly, or scream at some invisible man? They're scary because you can't predict them. The weirdo might try to bite your throat out because he doesn't like your shoes, for all you know.

You may have heard the following military joke: Professionals are predictable. It's the amateurs that are dangerous.

You may have heard the following military joke: Professionals are predictable. It's the amateurs that are dangerous.

this isnt true once i lost basketball game that the dumbshit coach told me same thing how amatuer might pwn and he did i guess you right then lol kkthx bye

lebanon i love it lets rebuild it kkthxbye

Ehud Olmert=Fudd Elmert=Elmer Fudd

>>68
Clever people with no moral objections are dangerous foes no matter are they professional or not. There are things you can't learn from training or experience. Muslims generally haven't been very clever though. Also letting fanaticism and anger to take control clouds your mind.

>>68
"You may have heard the following military joke: Professionals are predictable. It's the amateurs that are dangerous."

The thought that this was extrapolated from the fact that amateurs are more likely to make mistakes never crossed your mind? Like I said, maybe suicide bombers are awe inspiring to someone of your low intelligence, but anyone who has the sense to read and see more than some al qaeda recruitment ad on youtube knows that professional snipers and mortar/rpg teams are more dangerous than suicide bombers.

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true say

>>68

is gay

>>68
Haha, I'd believe this was a troll if it didn't write more than 3 sentences. I can't believe some people are this stupid!

I think the best way to keep the peace in the mid east is an empire of Isreal. When the arabs are subjugated and surrounded by people who are obviously not evil and might even want to help, they might back off. As an example I cite Japan, though let it be noted that Japan has a much different mentality.

>>76


Ah, but Israel is evil and they only want to help themselves. Read your fucking history, pick up the old testament. An "Empire of Israel" is precisely what has got these fuckers so riled up in the first place. How could you be so stupid?

Yeah, there were no wars or violence in the middle east before 1948. Then the jews came and destroyed their liberal and advanced civilisation. We need to kill all the jews and then we'll have peace and prosperity in the world.

At least, that's what the liberal media and academia wants us to think.

WHO EVER WINS, WE LOSE

>>78 didn't read his history. :(