To me it seems the question is not anymore one of 'if' - Iran is a country led my a mad theocrat who wants nukes, trains a significant amount of terrorists and wants to kill all the jews. Clearly it's going to get invaded and destroyed. It must be done.
But how? Together with Israel, do we have enough military might to take them on (remember that many casualties are unacceptable for our side)? Would NATO join in the fun (on Iran's side?!)
Also, after it's destroyed, who will govern it? Clearly we can't let the muslims have it - the Iranian president has popular support - they'd just go back to a west-hating theocracy. Puppet government? Forced secular democracy?
What is world4ch's opinion on this?
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Xel2006-07-20 4:41
>>1 Well, since you've flooded the world with dollars, the rest of the world will pay for a war on North Korea and Somalia as well, so don't worry. The more mistakes you make during your military endeavours, the more your nation will suffer. I actually wish victory for you, but I am also very glad that you get what you deserve for not standing up to a mentally disturbed evangelical who has cheated twice in one of the processes that makes your country superior to those that you extort and manipulate.
With 50% of our armed forces. Bush was right on, but did it wrong. Only used 5% of our force to overwhelm, and another 5% to keep the peace. Instead, we need to use half our force to completely decimate the standing government and it's military, and to raz any cities which hold any terroristic cells which refuse to accept a democratic government installation.
And Bush didn`t cheat, he was given the election by a democrat-controlled Supreme Court. If you want to bitch, bitch about the Clinton and Carter appointees who didn`t vote your way.
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Xel2006-07-21 1:50
>>4 The fact that it all came down to a supreme court decision doesn't suddenly remove all the black neighbourhoods that had their voting power decimated. Or the dubious amount of petty arrests made prior to the election. Officially, he won. He will never be recognized as anything but half a president though.
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Anonymous2006-07-21 2:15
>>5
He started two kickass wars, will probably begin another and openly supports Israel's right to defence. As far I'm concerned he's one and a half of a president.
>>6 I support Israel's right to defense as well, and since my VP, not to mention the rest of my subjective cabinet, WOULDN'T have ties to corporate interests, evangelism or zionism I would probably have handled said wars with the sliver of competence and conscience your cowboy couldn't muster. You bore me.
Well, there seems, (from what I hear, though I could be wrong) that there is an oppressed youth culture that would love to not constantly be under the thumb of religious zealots. We could pick from the educated among that generation to rebuild the country.
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Anonymous2006-07-21 12:19
>>1
You know it's not that invasions aren't fun and nice fireworks, but it's fact that they cost money and lives of our very own citizens. We have already enough problems with Iraq. Don't need another Iraq. If the invasions could be done for free without risking our own soldier's lifes then I would support them, but they aren't, so I don't support them.
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Anonymous2006-07-21 21:11
>>1
North Korea would be a better target. We should have invaded them instead of Iraq.
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Anonymous2006-07-21 21:23
>>11
Assasinate Kim and as his son takes power North Korea ceases to be problem at all. Unlike his father he doesn't seem to hate US or capitalism at all. I doubt he will be much better ruler for North Korean people, but it's not our business unless he becomes threat to us.
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Kim should die. "North" Koreans musn't exist. There's only ONE KOREA!
sumida
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Anonymous2006-07-22 16:00
>>12
We have the ability to eliminate the tyranny in north korea aI believe in a world without borders. We have the ability to prevent the horrendous crimes being forced apon the north korean people by Kim's totalitarianism and sitting by doing nothing is as evil as committing those crimes against the north korean people ourselves.
We must invade north korea now and put those criminals to justice and horrifically torture them for the rest of their natural lives as punishment.
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Anonymous2006-07-23 4:16
>>5
name one black that has his voting right taking away during the 2000 and 2004 election.
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Xel2006-07-23 6:41
>>16 Name? Are you real or am I having a nightmare? I live in Sweden, you clusterfuck.
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Anonymous2006-07-23 8:02
There's no conspiracy. The Left didn't win because they are idiotic reactionaries.
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Anonymous2006-07-23 8:32
>>17
Oh I see, because you liver in Sweden ytou can say whatever you want and don't have to back it up with facts. Sorry, I did not reealise you were a member of the super Swedish master race of nudist cheese eating nazi cock accepting fish slappers.
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Anonymous2006-07-23 10:12
>>19
You're just pissed because nazi supermen are your masters, you fucking mongrel.
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Xel2006-07-23 10:55
>>19 Okay, baby. Here comes the aryan with more foreigner offense. Name one person who got killed by Clinton's taxation of the rich. Sounds insignificant, no? Well, unlike you I have the objectivity to realize that all of the last three presidents have been partisan, imperialistic shitfucks. I hate almost everything about the current iteration of American politics, but that doesn't mean I'm going to extend that to the population. You are not really as guilty as we Europeans, since you face a system that makes Sweden's socialists look like hands-off anarchists.
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Anonymous2006-07-23 11:52
>>20
Tell that to an aryan being bombed in London during ww2!
>>21
This has nothing to do with Clinton's taxation of the rich. What the fuck! Name one country we areactively screwing with and prove it, also name the negro who didn't get to vote. Or go fuck yourself you arrogant eurotard.
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Anonymous2006-07-23 13:03
we invade them full out today when Lebannon drops a bomb on top of Condy Rice's face.
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Anonymous2006-07-23 19:34
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All of them, because we don't let criminals vote. lol
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Anonymous2006-07-23 23:03
>>15
No it isn't.. we have no duty to unfuck every other shithole in the world, and we have no duty to unseat that piece of shit.
HOwever, if he becomes an imminent threat to us, then we should, but only in that instance.
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Anonymous2006-07-23 23:29
>>25
Yes we do, it is selfish not to free other people from tyranny when we can. Just as it is selfish not to free our fellow country men from tyranny.
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Anonymous2006-07-24 0:28
>>26
No, the reason we free our countrymen from tyranny is because it effects us as well as them, and we have this in common - the desire for liberty.
I'm all for more liberty in the world, but those people should be getting it and overthrowing their governments themselves, or just move here.