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Stupid argument I hear adnaus from socialists

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 7:42

Socialists like to say that capitalism is evil because it means that coorporations will come along and us their money to bribe the government. Fair enough, this is absolutely true. A person with a lot of money can bribe someone to do this and this is all terribly bad.

What I don't understand is how in flying moot socialism can solve this problem?? Socialism as a solution to this problem is like trying to solve crime by enlisting gangsters into the police.

If you want to keep people from using economic power to by-pass justice the last fucking thing you do is create a monopoly over every sector of the economy and then put the same people in charge over the law-making process.

Comparing democratic-capitalism and democratic-socialism, it is obvious that the people who will inevitably have economic-power will find it easier to be corrupt in a socialism since they are part of the government. Creating laws to prevent corruption within a bureaucracy is astronomically more difficult than creating laws to prevent corruption from enterring a bureaucracy.

The bureacrats may not have much money, but they have the power to change a few minor things here and there, give the housing department a 0.1% extra bit of cash from a billion $ budget which will go to "security administration", slip in a few fallacious arguments to get people to support corrupt decisions and corrupt the democratic process and they can get away with this much easier since they are in the same political paty as those who make the laws. Sure, people with a lot of money in a capitalism can do the same, but it's a hell of a lot easier if you are actually part of the government.

Power to the people! Not the government.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 9:02

Your argument fails when you say "they'll do it too." Why do you think it's called SOCIALism, rather than DOMINATalism?

You don't even pose an argument, you just tell us that the government is evil and we need to keep the system whose extent of evil we already know in place to avoid further evils. That's possibly the most retarded political theory I've heard in my entire life.

Socialism will work when society wants it to work. Right now at our current evolutionary state we are finding paradise in the rape and destruction of capitalism within every crevice of our wombs. When you want to evolve and become a human being, get back to us socialists. See you in 1000 years, if you're still around.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 13:13

>>2
Text book impersonation of a liberal! They're so naive it's unbelievable! I still haven't heard an explanation of how they intend to get everyone to never lie, cheat or steal so socialism will work.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 14:53

>>1 Good post. 

People fail to realize that most of the corruption we have results from the mixed economy that we have. 

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=mixed+economy

If there was no corruption in society to begin with, this system would create it. 

The only solution, is laissez-faire capitalism.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-04 23:43

I'm not so sure that laissez-faire capitalism is the best solution for the problem, since the corporations will be unchecked and monopolies could form. I'm not saying it's worse than socialism, but it still has the potential to end badly.

The best solution is to kill everyone, thus ensuring that no corruption exists and that none of these arguements can take place.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 16:36

>>5
You should read free-market literature.  Monopolies can often be taken care of and handled by market forces.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-05 16:43

>>6
But if the only way you can get water is through a tap or drive 50 miles with a bucket to a small stream, then the guy who charges you for using the tap will make it slightly more costly in time and money than driving 50 miles with a bucket.

no monopolies thx pls

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 16:16

>> what the hell are you talking about

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 16:32

>>7
Problem is that social democracy enchances monopolies. This has been already discussed. In system with high-taxing only big corporations survive. There's no room for small businesses.

Name: PENIS MAN 2006-07-06 17:06 (sage)

>>9
Small business doesn't have to pay as much as a large corporation, taxes are in per cent, sometimes on a somewhat logarithmic scale.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 17:16

>>10
Say that to any small business owner in Finland or Sweden and see what kind of response you get.

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-06 18:48

Name: Anonymous 2006-07-07 19:11

>>4  Truth. 

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