Gas Taxes to Fund Roads

From a libertarian's perspective, I think we should raise gas taxes.  This would seem to be a great solution.  Reasons for this measure:

1.  Global Warming
2.  Higher Gas Prices would encourage buying more efficient vehicles
3.  Income taxes shouldn't pay for roads anyways.  Roads should be payed for on an as-used basis.  Some people use the roads more than others.  Obviously, the more gasoline you are consuming, the more you are using the roads.

What if we stopped funding roads with tax dollars (probly comes from income or property taxes..?) and replaced it entirely with funding from gas taxes.  (Of course, gas taxes would have to be raised to do this.)

It makes sense though, from all political perspectives.  Libertarians should like it because roads would then be payed for on an as-used basis, as opposed to how it is now, where everyone has to pay for them, and some people get little use out of them, while others get lots of use.

Conservatives should like it for the same reasons as libertarians.

Liberals should like it because it would encourage people to buy more fuel efficient vehicles, and overall, would probably have a positive impact on the environment.

>>1
Something I forgot to add in, your income/property taxes (whichever is used to fund roads right now, or maybe both) could be lowered in response to this, since gas taxes would fully fund the road from here on. 

This is a good idea.  I think other people should be pissed off.  Services like this should be payed for and supported as they are used.  This is a good solution. 

Won't this damage the trucking industry as they are paid by the mile and not usually reimbursed for expenses?

>>4
Then they strike and conditions change.  I can't believe the American public are subsidizing industry and trucking so god damn much.  Those large vehicles damage the roads more, and they should be made to pay to the fullest extent.

>>5
Yeah, people who make a living transporting your goods and makeup the circulatory system of American industry should pay for tearing up your precious roads.

>>6
You retard.  The public is paying for the roads.  They are subsidizing all these industries and globalization.  All these shipments being made across the country are subsidized at the expense of the taxpayers, who are of course, primarilly middle-lower class.  They shouldn't have to prop up industries which are inefficient or unable to keep themselves up.

All I'm saying is people in general should be made to pay for the amount of road usage they use, and it should be removed from  the income/property tax budget.  As is, average joes are footing the bill for all this.  This shouldn't be the case.  Roads should be payed for as they are used.  What is more fair than that? If you don't want to pay, and you don't want to use them, you don't have to.  If you do, then you will be paying as you buy more gasoline to drive on the roads more. 

How is this not fair?

>>1
What if a person uses the fuel for heating and doesn't have a car, why should they pay road tax?

>>8
Any instance of a person doing that is going to be very slim in comparison with the huge number of people who use the gasoline to fuel their cars.  Other than for powering your lawnmower, I can't really see what you might be using this gasoline for other than driving on the roads.  There are other better alternative fuels for heating... many. 

>>9
So why don't you say that it is an approximation and is better than putting a mileage meter in everyone's car and all that needs to be done to stop people from tamperring with it? Why must you force down the idea that it is the perfect solution and that tax solves everyone's problems?

Maybe it is a good idea, but you shouldn't be the guy in charge if you lack the skill of self-criticism that most people pick up by the age of 8, no fucking way.

Freaking sociopath.

>>10
Taxes don't solve everyones problems.  Look, dipshit, YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE ROADS RIGHT NOW THROUGH YOUR NORMAL TAXES.

Do we have this clear now? Ok.  Good. 

What I am saying, is stop funding roads with normal taxes, and start funding them with gas taxes ONLY. 

You would be charged only as much as you ACTUALLY USE THE ROADS. 

Unlike now, where even if you don't use them at all, you still have to pay for them. 

>>8
They could give him stupidity tax instead.

>>1  Bump for making sense. 

>>13
Sage for bumping own thread.

hmm, funny because in oregon they are thinking of raising gas taxes on -Fuel effiecient- cars by 3 times because they are losing money on gas taxes. that doesn't encourage people to buy efficient cars. stupid oregon

How about car taxes? A set amount for each car, not percentage wise.

>>16 what is wrong with gas taxes? that means you are charged for the amount that you drive, rather than simply which car you happen to be driving.  this would be a more accurate indicator of your actual road-usage. 

>>15 stupid oregon

>>20
but then you have to keep on stopping over and over to pay tolls

think of something else, come on, think, THINK!!

>>21
Either way you're going to end up making shipping way too costly. Your cost of living is going to go way up unless you get all your goods at the local farmer's market.

>>20
Gas taxes are more accurate because if your vehicle is larger, heavier, and more prone to damage the roads, (e.g. semi trucks) you will be paying more for the road taxes proportionally. 

>>22
Everyone buying their food locally would be a positive thing. 

>>11 :"You would be charged only as much as you ACTUALLY USE THE ROADS.

Unlike now, where even if you don't use them at all, you still have to pay for them."

yah wouldn't it be nice if thats how it worked for welfare, no more of my money going to deadbeats.

>>24
What if I want hot sauce and sugar?

It doesn't cost that much to produce the materials used for paving, and laying a road down. The cost comes from labour in creating those said materials, the labour used in construction in the road, itself...not to mention the geographical survey of the land before hand.

>>27
It costs less if the workforce is more intelligent and can plan and use machinery correctly, something which the inferior mestizo race is unfortunately lacking in substantially. We're past the days of flatenning tarmac by pounding on it with metal plates attached to the end of poles.

Frankly I prefer if we simply get all the blacks on welfare into work, then they would learn how society works and those few intelligent blacks that exist can finally get the opportunities that can only be provided by heterosexual protestant parents. You must have realised this? Do you have something against blacks. Fucking racists, if you love racism so much go live in Mexico, they are racists.

>>28
   Agreed.

But I think you've misunderstood. I've nothing against blacks...dunno where that came from. I've not really met any blacks to develop any hate nor joy for.

>>25
I agree 100%.  Fucking welfare deadbeats.  If this doesn't sicken you, I don't know what will. 

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