Pentagon to omit Geneva ban

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"LOS ANGELES (AFP) - New policies on prisoners being drawn up by the
Pentagon will reportedly omit a key tenet of the Geneva Convention that explicitly bans "humiliating and degrading treatment.""

So much for being the "leader" of the free world. Nazi germany anyone?

Better to torture a few muslims than have a global caliphate on our hands.

You DO know that just hating america isn't going to be enough for them to let you live, right? Fuck, even converting might not be enough, since you could get killed for joining the wrong sect.

I'm waiting for the day when GWB changes the constitution to allow him to sit on his throne forever.

>>3 don't have long to wait for that one!

>>1
Oh noes!!  They might be mean to the people who are trying to kill us!!1

I suppose you'd like it if the military treated it's prisoners to tea and biscuts, and maybe a nice hot towel too.  Get real you stupid fucking hippy liberal faggot.
You cry out "Nazi" every time anyone does anything you don't agree with.  Well, you can go lick the enemy's balls if you're so concerned with their well-being.  But for all the people who would actually rather not have their country raped by suicide bombers a little humiliation on the enemy's part isn't that big of a deal.

>>5

THEY AREN'T PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO KILL US.

WHY DO YOU ALWAYS ASSUME OUR GOVERNMENT IS TELLING THE TRUTH?

IF THEY WERE, THEN WHY KEEP THE PRISONS A SECRET? IF THERE WAS NOTHING GOING ON, THEN WHY LIE?

OH right!  No one is trying to harm us.  I forgot about that.  That little incident back in 2001 was just a little misunderstanding.  They were really trying to tell us they want to be friends.
Oh, and that group of people arrested in Toranto; they weren't planning on doing anything bad either.

Peopele like you are funny.  Everything has an alterier motive.  The government is always planning something behind our backs.  Nothing they do is for the good of anyone.  They lie to us about EVERYTHING.  It's a SUPER secret conspiricy to resurrect hitler and annialate anyone who isn't white and of the conservative mind set!

It's really a shame that I have to pay taxes to support people like you who probably smoke pot and eat cheeze doodles all day.

It's funny how the Americans would be the first ones to scream bloody murder if anything happened to their POWs.

>>7

The people inside those prisons aren't the ones trying to hurt us. Prove that they are. Oh wait: You can't. NEWSFLASH: The government *is* always planning something behind our back. Nothing they do *is*  ever for the good of anyone but those with power. They DO lie to us about EVERYTHING. Even shit that doesn't even need to be lied about-- if they were TRULY AND ABSOLUTELY ETHICALLY SOUND they wouldn't NEED TO LIE.

The real shame is that there are people like you spouting shit like "it's a shame that I have pay taxes to support"....YOU DON'T SUPPORT SHIT, YOU LITTLE COCKBRAIN FUCKASS. You are insignificant toad compared to that government who's dick you're are prepared to nuzzle.

How is your zealotry different from islams? It kills people, forces others into living a way they don't want to, spreads ignorance and is most taxing on the lower classes. There's no difference between your ideals and their because you're both willing to wipe each other out for your desired result even if that means GOING BACK on the very ideals your systems of belief were founded ON!

>>1 Nazi germany anyone?

Do i really have to say anything to point out how flawed your "argument" is?

>>8 It's funny how the Americans would be the first ones to scream bloody murder if anything happened to their POWs.

Yah this kind of bullshit happens to our troops all the time, the goddamn japs didnt follow geneva, neither did the muslims--The rules of war dont work if the enemy isnt willing to follow them as well and we got sick of being the only ones playing by the rules so the rest of the world can go shove it, we'll look after our own asses  and those of the rest of the world since nobody else seems to want to do anything.

also, is flying a plane full of innocent civilians into towers filled with innocent civilians allowed by the geneva convention?

>>Everyone
       It doesn't say "torture" it says "humiliating and degrading treatmen" this means no electro-shock, no thumb screw, no rack, just light stuff embarassing you and shit.
       Noboby should compare our treatment of these people to Nazi Germany.  That is just insulting to the people that actually survived that bullshit.  We are feeding them, clothing them, not killing them on a massive scale.  For god sake take a look at the consentration camp photos and photos of our prisions.  Compare them and seriously tell me that they are the same.  Then tell a Jew that survived the camps that they are the same.  I hope they kick your ass, because to do that you would have to be as stupid as you sound.  These are some of the best treated POWs in the history of Warfare, and you should realize that.
      Also they aren't part of the armed services of that nation.  The Iraq army is theoretically covered by the Geneva convention, but those not inlisted aren't.  And Iraq isn't part of the Genevea convention anyways, not leagally binding.  We would be breaking a dozen or so UN resolutions to treat them badly no question, but not the Genevea Conventions.
       Bush is not going to be president after the 2008 elections.  He is not going to declare himself emperor, king or any other such title.  If people were seriously afraid of that he would have been shot by now.
        And what pisses me off to no end is the same person that says that the govenment is wageing war for it's own gain, and  it's a conspiracy and don't trust the govenment to do anything.  is also the same Socialist liberal fruitcake that wants us to trust the govenment with every social program they can come up with.  wants us to trust the govenment with our retirement plans and our healthcare, wants to trust the govenment to provide us with everything we fucking need in life.  Because liberal politicans that want to do this are our friends and never motivated by greed no matter how rich they get by preaching this policy and being that politican.  Don't be so fucking hipocritical yourself dumb shit.  At least I know that I don't trust the govenment at all and don't dillude myself witht he idea that there are politicans that want to help me.  Fuck politicans, Fuck the govemnent.  the less power the Government has the better.  But no matter how much you take from the govenment.  It still has to have a basic armed services devision.  This is the way a nation works.  The role of govemnet is primarially to (1)protect citizens from outside threats (2)protect citizens from inside threats(other people) (3)litigate civil disputes between citizens

Humiliating prisoners is an expression of power. News flash, this is it folks, it boils down to this. Our government wants to sit around and make money, lots of it. That's hard to do if your citizens complain, or if other countries want to start shit. America is doing what every empire has ever done. Instead of hanging fuckers from the London bridge they let it be known that if you cross them, they will capture you and torture you. Thanks to the Patriot act, the governemt can arrest anyone, for no damn reason, take you to one of these military prisons, and make your life hell.

>>7
Yes the government is always lying, idiots are so easy to control, so predictable. Humans are predictable. When they have fed you everything you know, they know everything about you, you can be controlled.

>> all

Military/Police State anyone?

>>14 dumbass  who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about anyone?

>>14
     the same guy that wants to take all our guns away so we can't resist a police state

>>16 lol, so true