yeah, yeah the french took a hard hit from germany in WWII, and i guess they made a good shield for england against germany. How about this. The only reason that france got taken over in the first place is because of the complete incompetence of the French army. The only reason that the British forces were able to escape back to britan from Dunkirk is because hitler thoought it was going to easy. He thought even the french couldn't be that stupid as to loose so fast, he was wrong. And the whole thing wouldn't have happened int he first place if Britian and France acted forcefully when hitler took over the entire eastern portion of Europe. Or at least stood with poland, their fucking ally, when they were invaded.
>>28
Do you know why France helped us in the revolutionary war, you really think it was from a great love for us. you are wrong. They were assisting just to spite Britan, and in the hopes of doing a grab afterwards of the the territory we earned ourselves in that little conflict. We would have likely won with or without france. It would have been harder, longer and bloodier, with us being much weaker at the end. But we are Americans and would have survived.
France didn't oppose us going into Iraq on any moral high ground. they opposed it because they didn't want anyone finding out about the oil for food scandel. And they stoped us from getting any assistance from the UN at all. all the council members of the UN have veto power over any action the UN does. France said they would veto it even if it passed unanimously by the rest of the nations in the UN.
It is all right to be patriotic. There is noting wrong with patriotism. I expect the french to be patriotic about their nation as well. and you are right that the whole "freedom fries" thing was a pointless publicity stunt. but it's over and you need to get over it.
>>26
Isreal is actually a good reason for the middle east to hate america. We shouldn't have taken their land away and given it to another people. It wasn't the right action no matter if our intentions were good or not. But this is also a reason to hate france. France, Britan, the United States, we all made that mistake together, but who gets all the blame, who is the only one left supporting the decision we made 60 years ago and pretty much have to follow though with now. WE ARE. It's all America's Fault.
>>22
I must have been asleep that year. you say in 2001 the gas price was $.90/gal. What fucking gas staion were you going to. It hasn't been $.90/gal since the early '80s if not the late '70s.
>>EVERYONE if we are fighting for oil i would sure as hell like to know where it is. We have been occupying the damned country for the past 3 years now i think, where the fuck is the goddamned oil you kept on promising us when we went in. You Candyasses told us the war was about oil back then. or at least some of you did. You keep on telling us it is about oil. If we are going to fight a war for oil, fine, but i want the fuking oil if so....So, Where the fuck is it. you thing George is keeping it in his back pocket or something?
>>27
There is no conspiracy to get oil here. I am not saying that George didn't have it out for Sudam. He may well have. But The world is better off with him out of power. We now need to get rid of Castro and a few other relics of the Cold War and we will be generally in a better world. WMD's were a valid as far as our intelligence network could find. Our intelligence network was faulty. It was the same intelligence network that failed to spot 9-11 before it happened. The same intellignece network that was stripped by Bill Clinton in order to make room for more of his social programs.
As for "freedom". They are now free, but they need to fight to keep it themselves. We need to go back to to a forign policy that is a cross between Truman's policy, and Teddy Roosevelts "Big Stick" policy. We need to carry that big stick and use it when we need to. But afterwards we need to equip the locals to fight for their own freedom. No well free capitalist nation really has any hatered for us, or at least they don't disagree with us to the point of attacking us.
We need to stop trying to be both everyones friend, and start being a supportive role for other nations. We became the World's Police force After WWII because we had to. That period of time is over, but our growth in that roll made it so we can't just retire from our role, I understand that. But we can't both police the world and be it's friend. Sometimes you have to knock heads together to police, and those you do it to don't like you much afterwards.
>>28
Just to piss you off, Regan was one of the best presidents in our nations history, he accomplished much, much more good than he caused bad for the nation.
Best Presidents of All time:
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Alexander Hamilton
Apraham Lincoln
Theodore Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman
Ronald Regan
and I am missing alot of earlier presidents from my list because i simply can't attach every one of them to something specific, or at least stopping something specific.
Those that are iffy because they did Many things very Admirably, and Screwed up other things royally
Franklin D. Roosevelt--brought about many necessary social changes, took things too far and caused to depression to last much longer than it needed to. Did very well in WWII. so he is a close one.
Presidents that get a bad rap for being worse for the country than they really were:
Richard Nixon(yes the guy was a dishonest little prick. at least he resigned instead of really dragging the nation through the mud with the whole impeachment thing. Actually i wish Clinton had resined and Gore Pardoned him. Good thing for presidents to do instead of dragging the US though the whole process)
Hoover--saying the depression was all his fault was really way to much to place on him. It was the system that he took over. And he did an admirable job of trying to stabilize it when it did happen.